How far would Radditz and Nappa have gone had they lived?

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How far would Radditz and Nappa have gone had they lived?
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+ Pelador	Jun 7 2014, 02:34 PM Post #1
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Had the two Saiyans survived and become good like Vegeta did, how far in terms of power would they have gone? Would they have achieved Super Saiyan eventually? Or would they have become useless trash like the humans did? Obviously it's hard to say exactly. You see Radditz likely never actually set foot on planet Vegeta and so never walked in ten times gravity. That would explain why his power level was so low compared to all the other Saiyans. If Radditz had recieved training under heavy gravity then perhaps he could have surpassed Goku? Nappa was an old man by the time he landed on Earth. Evidenced by the fact that he was an adult whilst Vegeta was still a boy. He lived at least 40 years and only reached a power of around 8000. I think his potential had been met by that point. So I think that Radditz had a lot more to offer but was never given the chance but Nappa was getting past his sell by date and probably wouldn't get very far at all compared with everyone else.
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DurararaFTW	Jun 7 2014, 02:43 PM Post #2
Posts: 69 Group: Member Member #11,358 Joined: May 16, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Death Note What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Naruto	Pelador Jun 7 2014, 02:34 PM Had the two Saiyans survived and become good like Vegeta did, how far in terms of power would they have gone? Would they have achieved Super Saiyan eventually? Or would they have become useless trash like the humans did? Obviously it's hard to say exactly. You see Radditz likely never actually set foot on planet Vegeta and so never walked in ten times gravity. That would explain why his power level was so low compared to all the other Saiyans. If Radditz had recieved training under heavy gravity then perhaps he could have surpassed Goku? Nappa was an old man by the time he landed on Earth. Evidenced by the fact that he was an adult whilst Vegeta was still a boy. He lived at least 40 years and only reached a power of around 8000. I think his potential had been met by that point. So I think that Radditz had a lot more to offer but was never given the chance but Nappa was getting past his sell by date and probably wouldn't get very far at all compared with everyone else. Raditz knew his father, I think he would have set foot on Planet Vegeta. Still tho, King Vegeta was probably the strongest Saiyan of his planet at not much higher then 10,000. It probably wouldn't have mattered much.



+ Pyrus	Jun 7 2014, 02:55 PM Post #3
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Well, Goku was in his 40s by the Boo arc, and Vegeta was at or nearing his 50s, and both of them made lengthy gains when you think about it like that. I don't think age would hold Nappa back until probably past his 50s and into his 60s.
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+ Pelador	Jun 7 2014, 02:55 PM Post #4
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Radditz knew of his father, there's nothing that says he met him directly. He would have been sent to another planet as a baby and spent many years there trying to wipe out it's population. By the time he'd achieved his goal, planet Vegeta would have been destroyed. That's why he never experienced the gravity and was thus a complete chicken weakling compared to Nappa, Bardock and the two Vegetas.
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lazerbem	Jun 7 2014, 03:16 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Doesn't even matter since Raditz and Nappa would have died on Namek
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Dankness Lava	Jun 7 2014, 03:25 PM Post #6
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	lazerbem Jun 7 2014, 03:16 PM Doesn't even matter since Raditz and Nappa would have died on Namek I don't think it's definite that they would've. Were they to stick with Vegeta, they could've survived.



DurararaFTW	Jun 7 2014, 06:09 PM Post #7
Posts: 69 Group: Member Member #11,358 Joined: May 16, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Death Note What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Naruto	Pelador Jun 7 2014, 02:55 PM Radditz knew of his father, there's nothing that says he met him directly. He would have been sent to another planet as a baby and spent many years there trying to wipe out it's population. By the time he'd achieved his goal, planet Vegeta would have been destroyed. That's why he never experienced the gravity and was thus a complete chicken weakling compared to Nappa, Bardock and the two Vegetas. I suppose it's possible that he only knew what his father looked like from an photoimage but he says that he and the others were on another planet when Vegeta was destroyed. Hardly suggests he was still busy with a planet he was sent to alone as a baby. And Nappa was a highclass warrior at 4000 to 8000, at 1200 Raditz couldn't have been so very far off from what low classes were averaged at.



lazerbem	Jun 7 2014, 06:56 PM Post #8
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Ben-Dan The Man Jun 7 2014, 03:25 PM lazerbem Jun 7 2014, 03:16 PM Doesn't even matter since Raditz and Nappa would have died on Namek I don't think it's definite that they would've. Were they to stick with Vegeta, they could've survived. Not really. Zarbon only saved Vegeta because he needed to interrogate him, he only needs to save one. Likely, he'd save Raditz as he's the weakest and then Raditz dies easily to the Ginyu Force
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Vertical	Jun 7 2014, 11:41 PM Post #9
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	To those suggesting that Nappa and that would die on Namek... he could've simply been abandoned on Earth, assumed dead by Vegeta... and then he could turn up on Namek with Goku post-gravity training. Assuming he could survive to the end of the series, I could see him settling between Goten/Trunks & Goku/Vegeta levels. Uncle Nappa could've been awesome.... GT? Pffft...."The Adventures of Pan and Uncle Nappa"
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Saberoph	Jun 7 2014, 11:49 PM Post #10
Posts: 11,517 Group: Member Member #5,650 Joined: January 23, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	I personally think Raditz and Nappa could've gone pretty far in all honestly. I actually would've liked seeing Raditz and Kakarrot doing Gravity Training on the way to Namek, or perhaps switch things around and pair Kakarrot and Nappa then pair Raditz and Vegeta together. I personally believe Gohan would've turned out different and a cross between his Future self and Raditz.
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Muyasuki	Jun 8 2014, 12:17 AM Post #11
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	I might be in the minority here in a few of my opinions here but I`ve actually thought about this one quite a bit. I honestly don`t think Raditz really was as weak as we think he was/is in comparison to other Saiyans. I honestly do think he was probably around the average strength of a Saiyan. I also do think that Nappa was, conversely, around the higher spectrum and was probably stronger than all but a few Saiyans. Something that I also think should be noted is that Goku and Vegeta seem to be the outliers when it comes to how Zenkais work so I don't think the entire race should be assumed to have Zenkais that work on that same level. As for the question itself, I very strongly believe that, if he had lived, Raditz would have probably filled the same story role that Vegeta did. Also, given his relation to Goku, probably has a higher chance at access to the abnormality of Zenkais so I would guess that, best case scenario, he's in their tier. Worst case scenario has him somewhere between Krillin and Piccolo (yes I'm aware of how big of a range that is). I'd also bet that he would be Trunks' father instead of Vegeta (easier to make sense of story wise, if Yamcha can not be the kid's dad). Conversely, I would actually see Nappa maxing out LOWER than the humans (well, the big 3). Given his age, and likely position when Planet Vegeta was still around, he probably possessed the lowest level in potential out of the possible main cast (outside of Chiaotzu). As such, his worst case/best case scenarios are around the same. I DO think that both would have eventually gained access to the Super Saiyan transformation. If only because, by the Buu saga, the thing was literally a children's play toy.



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