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Buu saga Power levels in Kili metric system
Topic Started: Jun 5 2014, 07:14 PM (1,398 Views)
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SSJ multipliers *10 *4 *4

Pui Pui ~ 100

Vegeta = 700

Goku = 800

Gohan = 400

Goten = 200

Trunks = 220

Yakon = 800

SSJ Goku = 3000 /because it was the highest number what can a kiliometer can display/ REALLY 8000

SSJ Vegeta = 7000

SSJ Gohan = 4000

Dabura pre meditation = 3500

Dabura post meditation = 4200

SSJ Goten = 2000

SSJ Trunks = 2200

SSJ2 Gohan = 16 000

SSj2 Vegeta/majin/ = 32 000

SSJ2 goku = 32 000

Majin Buu against Dabura = 10 000

Majin Buu against Vegeta = 50 000

SSJ3 Goku = 128 000

Majin Buu full power = 100 000

Gotenks pre = 15 000

Gotenks ssj pre = 150 000

Gotenks post = 200 000

Gotensk ssj post = 2 000 000

Gotenks ssj3 post = 32 000 000

Good Buu = 40 000

Grey Buu = 60 000

Super Buu = 25 000 000

Gohan post z sword training = 90 000

Gohan post ritual = 40 000 000

Buutensk = 57 000 000

Piccolo = 500

Super Buu with Piccolo = 25 000 500

Buuhan = 65 000 000

Base Vegito = 32 000 000

SSJ Vegito = 320 000 000


Kid Buu = 110 000




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Edited by Pointer, Jun 5 2014, 07:15 PM.

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I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
Sometimes Daiz statements aren't very credible.

Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:06 PM
Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
That's not completely unthinkable though.

Regardless, I have always said the kiri system isn't linear and a very bad way of measuring power.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:06 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
Sometimes Daiz statements aren't very credible.

Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
Nothing contradicts this though. Daizenshuu is good when it's not contradicted.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:08 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:06 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
Sometimes Daiz statements aren't very credible.

Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
Nothing contradicts this though. Daizenshuu is good when it's not contradicted.
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The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

You already proved that it is contradicted.
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That's not completely unthinkable though.


And yet Gohan isn't an SSJ and Trunks is no where to be found? It's a contradiction my friend. Anyways, don't want to get too off-topic.

If the Daiz states it takes 200 kiri to blow a planet up, obviously theirs something wrong with that unless Goku was only 4X stronger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:11 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
Sometimes Daiz statements aren't very credible.

Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
Nothing contradicts this though. Daizenshuu is good when it's not contradicted.
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The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

You already proved that it is contradicted.
No. Nothing contradicts it because there is no proof that the system is linear. It can't be, because SSJ Goku had something like 3000 Kiri, when his base was only 800. Since there is no proof of a decreasing SSJ multiplier, it is conjecture.
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There's no proof that it's a multiplier either.
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Jun 5 2014, 08:15 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:11 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:08 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:06 PM
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Jun 5 2014, 08:02 PM
I'm not liking this, because the Kiri system is not linear.

The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

Yet Base Goku was only 800 Kiri, which would make him only 4x stronger than Saiyan arc Vegeta.
Sometimes Daiz statements aren't very credible.

Like it saying M6 takes place in the CG wait and other stuff.
Nothing contradicts this though. Daizenshuu is good when it's not contradicted.
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The Daizenshuu claims that it takes ~200 Kiri to destroy a planet.

Saiyan Arc Vegeta >~ 200 Kiri.

You already proved that it is contradicted.
No. Nothing contradicts it because there is no proof that the system is linear. It can't be, because SSJ Goku had something like 3000 Kiri, when his base was only 800. Since there is no proof of a decreasing SSJ multiplier, it is conjecture.
The kiri meter only went up to 3,000 is a common one.

Personally I go with "Goku wasn't at max power".
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Woah, Cherry has a point! I just checked and the Kiri meter maxes out at 3,000 Kiris. Goku could very well be at max power and contradict nothing.
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Jun 5 2014, 09:30 PM
Woah, Cherry has a point! I just checked and the Kiri meter maxes out at 3,000 Kiris. Goku could very well be at max power and contradict nothing.
Contradicts the Daizenshuu though, keep that in mind.

Clearin: Fair enough.
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Well it can work, it would just not be linear measurement. Like for every 10 times increase in BP, it would only be a 2 times increase in Kirirs.
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That's still way too small. If that was the case Goku wouldn't even be at his Freeza arc counterpart, in my opinion.
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I don't follow the Kiri system because when Kakarrot first Transforms he isn't serious, and it's obvious that he Transform only for light and he only takes Yakin seriously after he Transforms a second time and we see him put out more energy after he Transforms and then for a second turns SS2. If Kakarrot was already at his max then he wouldn't have kept putting out more energy and the Kiri system is a contradiction of what we know and see of a MSS. Also, later on we see Goten and Trunks turn SS at the lookout with an aura and then power up, so in the Boo arc it's obvious a SS doesn't have to be at full power with an aura.

I like the idea of the Kiri system because it would help take place of power levels and would add some order to the Boo arc, but I feel it isn't a very solid system and I don't believe Kakarrot's reading doesn't work as his max considering what we saw with his second Transformation and from what we saw from Goten and Trunks later on.
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