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SSJ2 Goten (Pre-RoSaT) VS LSSJ Broly (Movie 8)
Topic Started: Jun 4 2014, 12:23 AM (661 Views)
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Who takes this fight?

Personally, I can see Goten edging out Broly here.
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I don't think Goten can loose this.
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I don't have Broly much past Perfect Cell, if at all, while I do have Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan quite a bit above that Cell. With the implications from the manga that Goten and Gohan aren't very far apart in power, I could envision Super Saiyan 2 Goten being around a power-weighted Cell, so he'd have the strength advantage over Broly. Beating him would be another issue.

Goten had training in kumite from Chi-Chi, and trained for about a month with Gohan, so he has some skill. But he wasn't a master with his ki manipulation yet given he destroyed part of the Budokai arena and couldn't avoid Trunks' trick in their match. Broly, on the other hand, showed impressive skill with his ki, but perhaps not as impressive fighting skill. He's certainly been in more battles, though, and the Legendary Super Saiyan form would lend him some needed durability.

I say it could go either way, but I'd give it to Goten 6.5/10 times.
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I think Broly takes this one, but only barely. The difference between them is minuscule. Goten might win in a few scenarios based on how close their battle powers are.
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SSJ2 Kid Gohan CG ~> SSJ2 Goten Pre Rosat = SPC > FPPC = LSSJ Broly M8

So Goten is stronger, but its doubtful if he can get the job done. I think Broly takes, he has infinite stamina and brute force, to be honest this can really go either way.
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Goten and Kid Trunks are shown to have decent skills in fighting though.

And besides, it's not like Broly's fighting skills are anything special.
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He is a good wrestler.
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Jun 4 2014, 01:11 AM
I don't have Broly much past Perfect Cell, if at all, while I do have Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan quite a bit above that Cell. With the implications from the manga that Goten and Gohan aren't very far apart in power, I could envision Super Saiyan 2 Goten being around a power-weighted Cell, so he'd have the strength advantage over Broly. Beating him would be another issue.

Goten had training in kumite from Chi-Chi, and trained for about a month with Gohan, so he has some skill. But he wasn't a master with his ki manipulation yet given he destroyed part of the Budokai arena and couldn't avoid Trunks' trick in their match. Broly, on the other hand, showed impressive skill with his ki, but perhaps not as impressive fighting skill. He's certainly been in more battles, though, and the Legendary Super Saiyan form would lend him some needed durability.

I say it could go either way, but I'd give it to Goten 6.5/10 times.
Where is that manga reference ?

I always thought this

Goku 10

Vegeta 8

Gohan : 6

Goten: 2


I have *10 and *4 as multipliers

And as FP cell i thus Broly are 80

I think the kid loses ...but not easily[/color]
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Yeah but his skills never struck me as anything special. Goten is a decently skilled fighter so i'd say it's a toss-up in skill.

Broly might have the advantage in stamina but I think Goten beats him in terms of power.
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IMO, Broly does have a intersting wrestling skills. Sure, he is not a kungfu type fighter. But that guy sure does have pure WWE (lol) skills.
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Jun 4 2014, 06:36 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jun 4 2014, 01:11 AM
I don't have Broly much past Perfect Cell, if at all, while I do have Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan quite a bit above that Cell. With the implications from the manga that Goten and Gohan aren't very far apart in power, I could envision Super Saiyan 2 Goten being around a power-weighted Cell, so he'd have the strength advantage over Broly. Beating him would be another issue.

Goten had training in kumite from Chi-Chi, and trained for about a month with Gohan, so he has some skill. But he wasn't a master with his ki manipulation yet given he destroyed part of the Budokai arena and couldn't avoid Trunks' trick in their match. Broly, on the other hand, showed impressive skill with his ki, but perhaps not as impressive fighting skill. He's certainly been in more battles, though, and the Legendary Super Saiyan form would lend him some needed durability.

I say it could go either way, but I'd give it to Goten 6.5/10 times.
Where is that manga reference ?

I always thought this

Goku 10

Vegeta 8

Gohan : 6

Goten: 2


I have *10 and *4 as multipliers

And as FP cell i thus Broly are 80

I think the kid loses ...but not easily
Goten and Gohan sparred pretty evenly twice, and Gohan was getting worried he'd be surpassed if he kept sitting around all day. It's good enough for me to say that they were close in power.
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Funny as I used to have the Kids extremely low. Possibly the lowest on this site. Now I have the exact opposite.

CG Goku: 2
Goten: 3.1
Trunks: 3.15
Buu Saga Gohan: 3.2
CG Gohan: 3.6
Buu Saga Vegeta: 5
Buu Saga Goku: 5.5
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Power level time.

CG Goku: 100
CG Gohan: 130
SSJ 2 Gohan: 260
FP Perfect Cell: 200
LSSJ Broly M8: 210

BS Gohan: 110
BS Goten: 100
SSJ 2 Goten: 200

Broly takes, Goten isn't skilled enough to win from behind.
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I Have:
SSj2 Goten:22,000,000,000
LSSJ Broly M8:13,500,000,000 Or 15,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan >/= Post Rosat SSJ2 Goten Hypothetical >= SPC > FPPC > SSj2 Goten Pre Rosat > MSSJ Gohan CG > LSSJ Broly M8 >/= MSSJ Goku At CG
Even If Goten Doens´t Have A Lot Of Skill,The Gap Is Enough For A Stomp
Now,If The Post Rosat Boost Is Small Then Goten Is Not Far Away SPC Then He ROFLstomps Broly
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Let's see ...

SSJ2 = 2x SSJ

SSJ Trunks (Pre-Rosat) said himself that he is unable to kill 18. This places SSJ Goten's strength more or less similar to 18's. When Goku MSSJ deploys half its power, Vegeta admits that he is stronger than him.

That give :

LSSJ Broly (M8) > MSSJ Goku ~ MSSJ Gohan >> ASSJ Vegeta (1st Rosat) >> Cell (2nd form) >> Android 16 = Cell (1st form) >> Kamiccolo = Android 17 > Android 18 ~ SSJ Kid Trunks (Pre-Rosat) > SSJ Kid Goten.

Given the difference in power, I think that even in SSJ2, Goten will not last long.




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