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Potential
Topic Started: Jun 3 2014, 09:56 PM (535 Views)
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How does it work throughout the series? What is it, exactly?
What makes it different from dormant power?

Potential.
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

Everyone's potential is unlimited.
A Potential is how strong you can become over time, while a dormant power is a (normally) inaccessible reserve that anyone has at any given time.

For example, Gohan may have had all his reserves unlocked during the Boo Arc, but that doesn't mean that he's reached his potential limit. He can always get stronger if he trains.
However, I'm not sure if he ever can have reserves again. To me that completely nulls the "Ultimate" status. If he has reserves that are inaccessible, than that means he has hindrances that stop him from using his full power.
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Jun 3 2014, 10:18 PM
Everyone's potential is unlimited.
A Potential is how strong you can become over time, while a dormant power is a (normally) inaccessible reserve that anyone has at any given time.

For example, Gohan may have had all his reserves unlocked during the Boo Arc, but that doesn't mean that he's reached his potential limit. He can always get stronger if he trains.
However, I'm not sure if he ever can have reserves again. To me that completely nulls the "Ultimate" status. If he has reserves that are inaccessible, than that means he has hindrances that stop him from using his full power.
I agree with this post, but doesn't the end kind of contradict itself? If Gohan has the potential to get stronger, that extra strength should be the reserves that he previously had (sorry if that didn't make sense)

I'll use numbers.

Ultimate Gohan: 10
Ultimate Gohan + training: 15

This should mean that he had that much extra power to gain. This is why I think dormant power continues to reset after it apparently maxes out.
Edited by SSJ, Jun 3 2014, 10:21 PM.
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Jun 3 2014, 10:20 PM
The Assassin
Jun 3 2014, 10:18 PM
Everyone's potential is unlimited.
A Potential is how strong you can become over time, while a dormant power is a (normally) inaccessible reserve that anyone has at any given time.

For example, Gohan may have had all his reserves unlocked during the Boo Arc, but that doesn't mean that he's reached his potential limit. He can always get stronger if he trains.
However, I'm not sure if he ever can have reserves again. To me that completely nulls the "Ultimate" status. If he has reserves that are inaccessible, than that means he has hindrances that stop him from using his full power.
I agree with this post, but doesn't the end kind of contradict itself? If Gohan has the potential to get stronger, that extra strength should be the reserves that he previously had (sorry if that didn't make sense)

I'll use numbers.

Ultimate Gohan: 10
Ultimate Gohan + training: 15

This should mean that he had that much extra power to gain. This is why I think dormant power continues to reset after it apparently maxes out.
The reserves that he previously had were unlocked.

If there's reserves that he's unable to access under normal circumstances, than wouldn't he no longer be "Ultimate"?
The point of being ultimate is being perfect, or in this case, having access to all your power at all times in a natural state.
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I guess we just view this differently then. I agree with you on the fact that potential is unlimited. Also I agree on your analysis of dormant power. But if we go by what you're saying, Gohan wouldn't be able to gain more power, which you think he can. If he is truly perfect, then how does he have the ability to gain power? I just think he is perfect for the current amount if dormant power that he has, and that power can change very often.
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

It seems that you do think of it differently.
Just to clarify, it seems that you believe that a reserve in that context is a pre-set power that you chip into as you get stronger. I don't think that's the case.

A reserve is a forever changing reservoir of ki that is constantly out of reach, can only be access through emotional distress, physically changing your body (a transformation), or having it unlocked through artificial means.
However, I don't think that a reserve is something that's set in stone, and as you get stronger, it's not something that you're chipping into as your power grows. Your power grows, and as you develop and get stronger, that reserve stays the same amount.
So to put it into context, Gohan when he is 4 didn't have the same reserve that he had when he was 17. His reserve grows with his power and is constantly changing.
This changed when he had his ki unlocked. However, he can still get stronger when he trains because the reserve only supplements his growing power, his growing power is not dependent on his reserve.
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I've never really seen the difference between Dormant power and Potential. I've alwasy seen it as one thing or I've always seen it just just potential. Take Gohan's whole (issue) whatever you want to call that. To me, every person has a certain amount of "Issue" (whatever you want to call that again) that they have. Gohan is a person who has a lot of that issue. However ever person has a limit to how much of that they have.

Its made out that Old Kaioshi has brought out everything from Gohan that he can have. This doesn't mean that Gohan can't get stronger...far from it. But unlike the others time where there were certain things that could draw this power out, such as anger. He now has to gain his ki directly, through training and stuff. This is the way I've always seen it. Everyone has a set amount of energy inisde of them that through specialized means they can take out.

Regular ki is like your bank account, you can put more ki in that or take more ki out. If that's a way you can think of it. This internal energy that characters have and that Gohan ets from rage boosts and stuff, is more like a gift card. You only have so much money in there and you can't put more money on the gift card itself. That gift card gets added to the bank account.

If that makes sense.
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I've always Dormant power and Potential as one in the same in the DBZ Universe. Gohan has had his Potential released several times, and yet his Potential keeps resetting and growing stronger than the previous set. Vegeta had all his brought out with the Majin Spell, yet it's not set that he can't stronger and at the end of Z it's more than implied that Vegeta was stronger then his Boo arc self... it's all but outright said that he's stronger.

So no, I don't believe it's a set thing and I don't believe that once it's brought out that it can't reset.
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Potential and Dormant power are pretty much interchangeable words in DBZ.
Edited by Yusuke, Jun 5 2014, 04:08 AM.
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