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DB/Z feats; Power, durability, strike force and speed
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SurRealistic	May 31 2014, 02:44 PM Post #1
Jonny Rivers Posts: 295 Group: Member Member #8,502 Joined: November 1, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	So I was on ComicVine and I came across a topic called "Absolue Guide to Dragon Ball feats" by a user named All_Mighty_Beyonder. Te topic didnt have a lot of replies so I thougt I'd post it here to see if you guys agreed with it. Spoiler: click to toggle Click here to go see the topic
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* Ketchup Revenge	May 31 2014, 03:03 PM Post #2
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	The problem is that they're comparing ki power to over-all durability, which isn't the same thing. Not to mention they use Fanulations. ... And they really don't distinguish that different ki blasts move at different speeds. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 31 2014, 03:05 PM.
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~~King Kakarot~~	May 31 2014, 03:06 PM Post #3
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	The Assassin May 31 2014, 03:03 PM The problem is that they're comparing ki power to over-all durability, which isn't the same thing. Not to mention they use Fanulations. Fanslations aren't that bad in db considering akira is piss poor at math to begin with Edit: the blog was pretty accurate tbh Edited by King Kakarot, May 31 2014, 03:10 PM.



Goddess Ultimecia	May 31 2014, 03:09 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Here's a comprehensive feat guide with statements of certain things. -Moon Busters -Planet Busters -Statements of Solar System Busters -Statements of instant Solar System Busters -Are FAR above the speed of sound Good everybody? Didn't even have to use calculations which are more akin to lolcalcs anyway.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	May 31 2014, 03:23 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I would rather not read a post that long lol. I can try to briefly tell you what they're capable of Lifting: honestly in dbz, nobody can pushing or pull planets and stuff. We actually don't know exactly how much they can lift. What's more important is how hard they can hit Striking power: an average punch from mystic gohan for example is more than enough to easily splatter someone who can withstand a solar system destroying attack. Long distance travel speed: Low hypersonic I guess. A lot of people overrate and say they're faster than light but it doesn't work. Combat speed: this what we know. They can have a short fight in very small fraction of a second. They move too fast for a normal human and even high level ki users to see. Same thing with some of the blasts like friezas finger beam Destructive power: multiple solar systems. But don't expect them to be able to literally destroy even one solar system. Their blast would be potent enough to multi-solar system bust but a lot of people don't think they can spread the blast that wide. Durability: durability goes along with destructive power. However strong their attack is, their durability is somewhere around there Here's something important to note: A lot of people(I was one of them) think "this person can destroy one planet. When he gets 10x stronger he can destroy 10 planets". That's not how it works though. Their actual abilities(destructive power, speed, etc.) don't scale linearly with power level. However. we do know that kaioken does in fact scale linearly to power level. So when goku with kaioken is surpassed, that can give us an idea of how much faster, stronger, etc. that person is. The person that made blog you posted didn't take this into account based on reading the first few things Edited by Ssj3vegito96, May 31 2014, 03:26 PM.
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


~~King Kakarot~~	May 31 2014, 03:29 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:23 PM I would rather not read a post that long lol. I can try to briefly tell you what they're capable of Lifting: honestly in dbz, nobody can pushing or pull planets and stuff. We actually don't know exactly how much they can lift. What's more important is how hard they can hit Striking power: an average punch from mystic gohan for example is more than enough to easily splatter someone who can withstand a solar system destroying attack. Long distance travel speed: Low hypersonic I guess. A lot of people overrate and say they're faster than light but it doesn't work. Combat speed: this what we know. They can have a short fight in very small fraction of a second. They move too fast for a normal human and even high level ki users to see. Same thing with some of the blasts like friezas finger beam Destructive power: multiple solar systems. But don't expect them to be able to literally destroy even one solar system. Their blast would be potent enough to multi-solar system bust but a lot of people don't think they can spread the blast that wide. Durability: durability goes along with destructive power. However strong their attack is, their durability is somewhere around there Here's something important to note: A lot of people(I was one of them) think "this person can destroy one planet. When he gets 10x stronger he can destroy 10 planets". That's not how it works though. Their actual abilities(destructive power, speed, etc.) don't scale linearly with power level. However. we do know that kaioken does in fact scale linearly to power level. So when goku with kaioken is surpassed, that can give us an idea of how much faster, stronger, etc. that person is Their travel speed for the most part is PIS/inconsistent I highly doubt their is such a huge difference in combat speed and thier travel speed I believe based on the feat in the cell games they are Ftl Edited by King Kakarot, May 31 2014, 03:30 PM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	May 31 2014, 03:33 PM Post #7
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	What feat in cell games are you talking about? Cells KHH getting into space in a few seconds? Their travel speed can consistently been nowhere near ftl Edited by Ssj3vegito96, May 31 2014, 03:38 PM.
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


~~King Kakarot~~	May 31 2014, 03:37 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:33 PM What feat in cell games are you talking about? Cells KHH getting into space in a few seconds? Goku dodging cell khh with his instant transmission and If we look closely to those scans, we see that Goku made instant transmission while the energy beam went about 10 000 Km, Which is Ftl



+ Ssj3vegito96	May 31 2014, 03:45 PM Post #9
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	King Kakarot May 31 2014, 03:37 PM Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:33 PM What feat in cell games are you talking about? Cells KHH getting into space in a few seconds? Goku dodging cell khh with his instant transmission and If we look closely to those scans, we see that Goku made instant transmission while the energy beam went about 10 000 Km, Which is Ftl You can't really put a number on how long it took for the blast to reach 10,000 km though
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


~~King Kakarot~~	May 31 2014, 03:50 PM Post #10
Posts: 2,437 Group: Suspended Member #10,181 Joined: September 15, 2013 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga db	Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:45 PM King Kakarot May 31 2014, 03:37 PM Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:33 PM What feat in cell games are you talking about? Cells KHH getting into space in a few seconds? Goku dodging cell khh with his instant transmission and If we look closely to those scans, we see that Goku made instant transmission while the energy beam went about 10 000 Km, Which is Ftl You can't really put a number on how long it took for the blast to reach 10,000 km though Yeah I can instant transmission is timeframe here



+ Ssj3vegito96	May 31 2014, 03:55 PM Post #11
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	King Kakarot May 31 2014, 03:50 PM Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:45 PM King Kakarot May 31 2014, 03:37 PM Ssj3vegito96 May 31 2014, 03:33 PM What feat in cell games are you talking about? Cells KHH getting into space in a few seconds? Goku dodging cell khh with his instant transmission and If we look closely to those scans, we see that Goku made instant transmission while the energy beam went about 10 000 Km, Which is Ftl You can't really put a number on how long it took for the blast to reach 10,000 km though Yeah I can instant transmission is timeframe here Ok but after goku teleports out of there, we see the blast moving, and then we see it in space. We can't tell how fast it was going. Things generally go faster in space too
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


~~p123~~	Jun 5 2014, 05:23 PM Post #12
Posts: 2,148 Group: Banned Member #5,120 Joined: August 9, 2010	I like to break down fights and compare them. Rivaling fights - Distant, Medium, Close. What levels of stompery there are and what not and making a decent basis for them. For example, Goku vs Cell and Zarbon vs Vegeta are very similar. So I'd use a similar percentage gap for both of them. I like breaking down the feats in this way. Also I like to judge by facial expression as well. If a guy has veins coming out of his head and if a guy is leisurely smiling and looking like he's taking a nap while attacking, that is going to lead to different results even if the fight looks the same.



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