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movie 10 and buu arc comparison
Topic Started: May 28 2014, 07:14 PM (838 Views)
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for reference points to movie 8 and cell games arc see this thread http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8480540/1/#new

buu arc till fat buu


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using buu arc base gohan 25 as the reference point.

buu arc


movie 10
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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I think Pui-Pui should be below base Goten & Trunks & the gaps between the adults & kids is a bit big, but that's not the point of the thread.

Good comparison list.
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May 28 2014, 07:44 PM
using buu arc base gohan 25 as the reference point.

buu arc


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broly is stronger than a ssj3?

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May 29 2014, 04:47 AM
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May 28 2014, 07:44 PM
using buu arc base gohan 25 as the reference point.

buu arc


movie 10
broly is stronger than a ssj3?
i think, he is going off the idea that movie 10 (gohan & broly) is haxxed
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Yeah, the whole LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku thing is almost like Gogeta > Vegito. There's no reason to have that other than personal preference granted Broly did nothing to prove himself as an SSJ3 tier fighter. Just Saiyan.

As for me...

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Goten and Trunks > Piccolo in base?

Where is that even suggested? Just because you want to have the kids close to Gohan?

Everything else suggests otherwise.
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May 29 2014, 10:47 PM
Goten and Trunks > Piccolo in base?

Where is that even suggested? Just because you want to have the kids close to Gohan?

Everything else suggests otherwise.
Everything else suggests what? Kids not being close to Gohan or Goten and Trunks being above Piccolo in base. Dabura thinks that the base Saiyans are more of a threat than Piccolo. A ton of scenes and quotes also suggesting Goten and Gohan being close in power, not to mention the Daiz where it is straight up stated that Gohan is equal to Goten. I would like to see the parts where you think otherwise is suggested for either
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May 29 2014, 09:29 PM
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May 29 2014, 04:47 AM
lunar2
May 28 2014, 07:44 PM
using buu arc base gohan 25 as the reference point.

buu arc


movie 10
broly is stronger than a ssj3?
i think, he is going off the idea that movie 10 (gohan & broly) is haxxed


yeah. barring another shift in the ssj multiplier at the level of power that gohan and broly are at, base gohan being stronger than ssj goten and trunks, as clearly shown, means that ssj2 gohan and lssj broly are stronger than ssj3 goku. this is assuming, of course that ssj3 has a 2x multiplier, which i kind of default to without any evidence for anything else. it's possible that ssj3 is a stronger transformation, in which case broly may not be stronger than ssj3 goku.

sekzee
May 29 2014, 10:47 PM
Goten and Trunks > Piccolo in base?

Where is that even suggested? Just because you want to have the kids close to Gohan?

Everything else suggests otherwise.


nothing suggests otherwise, actually. the only time their power is directly compared is inside buu, where piccolo is stronger than the drained base kids. but note that they are explicitly drained from the use of ssj3 gotenks. and considering that that was their 3rd time using it in less than a day, you can imagine just how exhausted they had to be.

other than that, my numbers could have piccolo stronger than base goten and trunks. i allow him as high as 25, the same as base gohan, and stronger than base goten or trunks. i just don't think he would compete if he was significantly weaker than the weakest relevant competitor.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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May 29 2014, 10:47 PM
Goten and Trunks > Piccolo in base?

Where is that even suggested? Just because you want to have the kids close to Gohan?

Everything else suggests otherwise.
I'm a believer in Base Saiyans > Kaioshin > Piccolo.

Since I have the Base Adults ahead of Kaioshin and Piccolo, the kids shouldn't be far behind the Adults seeing that Goten was closing in on Gohan.
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May 29 2014, 10:03 PM
Yeah, the whole LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku thing is almost like Gogeta > Vegito. There's no reason to have that other than personal preference granted Broly did nothing to prove himself as an SSJ3 tier fighter. Just Saiyan.

As for me...

25th Tenkaichi Budokai to Gohan VS Dabura

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Movie 10

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There is no way Broly would even be close to a GT character who'd be SSJ4 level, in GT, or at least close. At that point, Broly is pretty much Raditz...weak compared to everything else.
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May 29 2014, 10:03 PM
Yeah, the whole LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku thing is almost like Gogeta > Vegito. There's no reason to have that other than personal preference granted Broly did nothing to prove himself as an SSJ3 tier fighter. Just Saiyan.

As for me...

25th Tenkaichi Budokai to Gohan VS Dabura

Spoiler: click to toggle


Movie 10

Spoiler: click to toggle
There is no way Broly would even be close to a GT character who'd be SSJ4 level, in GT, or at least close. At that point, Broly is pretty much Raditz...weak compared to everything else.
he didn't mention any gt characters.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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May 30 2014, 05:06 AM
Yusuke Urameshi
May 29 2014, 10:03 PM
Yeah, the whole LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku thing is almost like Gogeta > Vegito. There's no reason to have that other than personal preference granted Broly did nothing to prove himself as an SSJ3 tier fighter. Just Saiyan.

As for me...

25th Tenkaichi Budokai to Gohan VS Dabura

Spoiler: click to toggle


Movie 10

Spoiler: click to toggle
There is no way Broly would even be close to a GT character who'd be SSJ4 level, in GT, or at least close. At that point, Broly is pretty much Raditz...weak compared to everything else.
I think your thinking of something else PG14.

Preeety sure I didn't mention GT in my comparison list lol.
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May 31 2014, 01:25 AM
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May 30 2014, 05:06 AM
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May 29 2014, 10:03 PM
Yeah, the whole LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku thing is almost like Gogeta > Vegito. There's no reason to have that other than personal preference granted Broly did nothing to prove himself as an SSJ3 tier fighter. Just Saiyan.

As for me...

25th Tenkaichi Budokai to Gohan VS Dabura

Spoiler: click to toggle


Movie 10

Spoiler: click to toggle
There is no way Broly would even be close to a GT character who'd be SSJ4 level, in GT, or at least close. At that point, Broly is pretty much Raditz...weak compared to everything else.
I think your thinking of something else PG14.

Preeety sure I didn't mention GT in my comparison list lol.
i think he is just saying that broly is overrated by a lot of ppl & isn't all that strong, like u made that comparison to gogeta > vegetto
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May 31 2014, 01:26 AM
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May 30 2014, 05:06 AM
Yusuke Urameshi
May 29 2014, 10:03 PM
Yeah, the whole LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku thing is almost like Gogeta > Vegito. There's no reason to have that other than personal preference granted Broly did nothing to prove himself as an SSJ3 tier fighter. Just Saiyan.

As for me...

25th Tenkaichi Budokai to Gohan VS Dabura

Spoiler: click to toggle


Movie 10

Spoiler: click to toggle
There is no way Broly would even be close to a GT character who'd be SSJ4 level, in GT, or at least close. At that point, Broly is pretty much Raditz...weak compared to everything else.
I think your thinking of something else PG14.

Preeety sure I didn't mention GT in my comparison list lol.
i think he is just saying that broly is overrated by a lot of ppl & isn't all that strong, like u made that comparison to gogeta > vegetto
But I never said Gogeta > Vegito lol. I was comparing Gogeta > Vegito to LSSJ Broly > SSJ3 Goku because their both inaccurate and don't make any sense.

I don't recall mentioning GT anywhere lol.
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