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100% Freeza vs SSJ Vegeta
Topic Started: May 28 2014, 02:32 PM (2,435 Views)
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and what if frieza is 120 000 000 as stated but the reason he can be "even" with ssj goku is the fact that ssj goku was battleworn thus not 150 000 000 when he faced against frieza , maybe 125 000 000. SSJ drains Ki you know

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I believe it was stated that Goku was 150 million, but he might have lost ki steadily just as Freiza did as the battle went on.
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May 28 2014, 06:56 PM
and what if frieza is 120 000 000 as stated but the reason he can be "even" with ssj goku is the fact that ssj goku was battleworn thus not 150 000 000 when he faced against frieza , maybe 125 000 000. SSJ drains Ki you know
Freeza was smashed with a Spirit Bomb and by his own admission, nearly died. If Goku was hurt, so was Freeza
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Goku was at least implied to have gotten health back once he transformed. He went from barely standing to jumping right back up once he transformed. Freeza again was nearly killed and the only thing he did was make his already wearing and strained body even more strained by powering up to 100%.
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As usual, I also consider Vegeta somewhere between 2 and 2.5 million in base, meaning as a Super Saiyan he'd be practically equal with Freeza's full 120 million. Vegeta already has a good shot at winning, but it would become an easy victory if he stays defensive and stalls long enough for Freeza's power to start dropping.
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May 28 2014, 10:16 PM
As usual, I also consider Vegeta somewhere between 2 and 2.5 million in base, meaning as a Super Saiyan he'd be practically equal with Freeza's full 120 million. Vegeta already has a good shot at winning, but it would become an easy victory if he stays defensive and stalls long enough for Freeza's power to start dropping.
Vegeta never plays defensively. He'll be cocky about becoming a Super Saiyan and probably walk right into a Nova Strike or whatever other attacks Freeza barely toyed at 100%, after his warm up, he went straight for the kill
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Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
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May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
How is he going to have an upper hand against someone that's most likely stronger than him?
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May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
Freeza can as well. If you go by Daiz numbers, then Freeza is skilled as Hell via the fact he could actually keep up with Goku. However, if an attack winds the 150,000,000 power level Goku, then it will leave Vegeta splatted across the ground.
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May 28 2014, 10:42 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
Freeza can as well. If you go by Daiz numbers, then Freeza is skilled as Hell via the fact he could actually keep up with Goku. However, if an attack winds the 150,000,000 power level Goku, then it will leave Vegeta splatted across the ground.
According to the DaizenShuu the gap between Goku & Freeza is a rivaling gap, apparently because Raditz & SaibaMen had a similar gap (by DaizenShuu numbers).
Edited by StrawHatCrew, May 28 2014, 10:51 PM.
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May 28 2014, 10:46 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:42 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
Freeza can as well. If you go by Daiz numbers, then Freeza is skilled as Hell via the fact he could actually keep up with Goku. However, if an attack winds the 150,000,000 power level Goku, then it will leave Vegeta splatted across the ground.
According to the DaizenShuu the gap between Goku & Freeza is a rivaling gap, apparently because Raditz & SaibaMen had a similar gap (by DaizenShuu numbers).
That's a fair point...except they have Dodoria and Zarbon at 22 and 23,000 respectively
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May 28 2014, 10:59 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:46 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:42 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
Freeza can as well. If you go by Daiz numbers, then Freeza is skilled as Hell via the fact he could actually keep up with Goku. However, if an attack winds the 150,000,000 power level Goku, then it will leave Vegeta splatted across the ground.
According to the DaizenShuu the gap between Goku & Freeza is a rivaling gap, apparently because Raditz & SaibaMen had a similar gap (by DaizenShuu numbers).
That's a fair point...except they have Dodoria and Zarbon at 22 and 23,000 respectively
...& what does that mean?
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May 28 2014, 10:29 PM
How is he going to have an upper hand against someone that's most likely stronger than him?
Because 1) I'm operating under the presumption that they'd end up very close in power, and 2) because he's mutha-effin' Vegeta, that's why.
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May 28 2014, 11:00 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:59 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:46 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:42 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
Freeza can as well. If you go by Daiz numbers, then Freeza is skilled as Hell via the fact he could actually keep up with Goku. However, if an attack winds the 150,000,000 power level Goku, then it will leave Vegeta splatted across the ground.
According to the DaizenShuu the gap between Goku & Freeza is a rivaling gap, apparently because Raditz & SaibaMen had a similar gap (by DaizenShuu numbers).
That's a fair point...except they have Dodoria and Zarbon at 22 and 23,000 respectively
...& what does that mean?
He is trying to say that 24k Vegeta effortlessly beat Adlerian. That's his point.

Lol wtf autocorrect *Dodoria
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May 28 2014, 11:03 PM
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May 28 2014, 11:00 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:59 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:46 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:42 PM
Kaboom
May 28 2014, 10:27 PM
Yeah, that's why I attached it as an "if." But we've already seen how effectively Vegeta can fight when he's close to someone in power. The odds are probably in his favor even if he opted to just rush and pummel Freeza instead.
Freeza can as well. If you go by Daiz numbers, then Freeza is skilled as Hell via the fact he could actually keep up with Goku. However, if an attack winds the 150,000,000 power level Goku, then it will leave Vegeta splatted across the ground.
According to the DaizenShuu the gap between Goku & Freeza is a rivaling gap, apparently because Raditz & SaibaMen had a similar gap (by DaizenShuu numbers).
That's a fair point...except they have Dodoria and Zarbon at 22 and 23,000 respectively
...& what does that mean?
He is trying to say that 24k Vegeta effortlessly beat Adlerian. That's his point.

Lol wtf autocorrect *Dodoria
Yeah, I just remembered that.

...but still my point stands that for Daizenshuu the gap between Goku & Freeza is considered a rivaling gap.
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