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Weakest Dbz Character to survive the sun
Topic Started: May 27 2014, 10:28 PM (7,786 Views)
King Kakarot
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bardock1990
May 28 2014, 04:54 PM
So some say that KI cannot block against extreme heat. I think I've seen people show some evidence of this before but I can't think of what it was at the moment so I can't make a case here. For starters SSJ Goku survinging a dive into lava with a KI shield is filler right?
Yep extreme heat can be measured in joules since heat is energy and the lava thing is filler
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You are looking to much into the physics instead of biology which is the real factor here. You mean that Raditz is able to survive more than 91 petaton of energy in the face. Ok let's assume that it is true but give an answer or simple question. Does Piccolo blast was as hot as surface of the sun? As the enviromental damage shows, nope. Now let's change the situation and give the blast the heat of the sun. What do you think would happen with Raditz body if he would tank it to the face? Don't forget that his body is mainly build with water and proteins. Anyway I will provide you with real life example. Human body is able to withstand a close-range blast from shotgun (depends where you are hit) which has thousand of joules of energy. That is quite clear. Yet...the same body will be killed in a matter of minutes if you will be expressed on the air temperature of about 60 degres. In other words both heat and joules does not always corelate with each other.
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Goku couldn't survive a the heat of tiny planet (likely smaller than a city) being destroyed as MSSJ, he isn't going to survive the sun.

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Itachi
May 28 2014, 09:53 PM
Goku couldn't survive a the heat of tiny planet (likely smaller than a city) being destroyed as MSSJ, he isn't going to survive the sun.
Ah, the argument of wether Goku died from Kai planet's explosion or Cell's explosion.
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Gracek90
May 28 2014, 09:45 PM
You are looking to much into the physics instead of biology which is the real factor here. You mean that Raditz is able to survive more than 91 petaton of energy in the face. Ok let's assume that it is true but give an answer or simple question. Does Piccolo blast was as hot as surface of the sun? As the enviromental damage shows, nope. Now let's change the situation and give the blast the heat of the sun. What do you think would happen with Raditz body if he would tank it to the face? Don't forget that his body is mainly build with water and proteins. Anyway I will provide you with real life example. Human body is able to withstand a close-range blast from shotgun (depends where you are hit) which has thousand of joules of energy. That is quite clear. Yet...the same body will be killed in a matter of minutes if you will be expressed on the air temperature of about 60 degres. In other words both heat and joules does not always corelate with each other.
i don't need to assume if raditz can survive 91 petaton worth of energy to the face when he was shown to survive thousands of petaton worth of it

Who on earth is surviving a shotgun in close range?

air temperature of 60 degrees? that not's killing you

Doesn't really matter since the sun can be measured in joules which is my point here and it's only a measly 91 petatons(which once again isn't killing raditz)
@Itachi you do realize that attack is was much more than 91 petatons right?

what you posted was irrelevant
Edited by King Kakarot, May 28 2014, 10:13 PM.
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May 28 2014, 10:06 PM
Itachi
May 28 2014, 09:53 PM
Goku couldn't survive a the heat of tiny planet (likely smaller than a city) being destroyed as MSSJ, he isn't going to survive the sun.
Ah, the argument of wether Goku died from Kai planet's explosion or Cell's explosion.
Yeah going by normal gaps, Cell shouldn't have enough Ki to take out Goku. The gaps are too large and the numbers don't work. I think it could work if you have Goku removing SSJ and suppressing himself, but I can't think of any reason why Goku would do that.

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why do you guys assume that Heat magically surpasses your durability?

For example if someone in fiction has galaxy lvl durability but he has shown no heat feats whatsoever do you think the sun could kill him even though the sun's out per second is 91 petatons?
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You don't seem to understand the physics of the situation, but either way Goku couldn't survive Kai's planet being destroyed. That's all you need to know.

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A couple things i would like to point out

1. King kais planet doesn't explode. It's just a small fragment of what was a huge planet that had a core before beerus blew it up

2. To be fair, I don't think you can use great ape gohan falling on vegeta as proof for anything since you can't say how heavy he was

3. @king kakarot Superman isn't good proof either. First because he can take a nap in the sun if he wanted to but he still can take damage from a planet busting attack. Secondly because he's from a completely different series
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May 28 2014, 10:26 PM
A couple things i would like to point out

1. King kais planet doesn't explode. It's just a small fragment of what was a huge planet that had a core before beerus blew it up

2. To be fair, I don't think you can use great ape gohan falling on vegeta as proof for anything since you can't say how heavy he was
But then why are people allowed to put weights on Enlarged Piccolo and The Boulder Kid Goku lifted but we can't use Oozaru Gohan and put a weight on him? That's not fair...
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Itachi
May 28 2014, 10:24 PM
You don't seem to understand the physics of the situation, but either way Goku couldn't survive Kai's planet being destroyed. That's all you need to know.
Survive king kai's planet exploding.......

it was obviously cell's attack that killed him which is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Freiza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>saiyan saga vegeta >planet level

raditz won't feel 91 petatons of energy which is equal to 90822179732.314 Megatons especially after he tanked this

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So you explain to me how the sun is supposed to effect him

@ssj3 that gif was only supposed to show how the heat won't be able to burn him since his body is much too durable

Supes just so happened to be in that gif also a planet busting attack is more than the output of the sun every second....
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May 28 2014, 10:28 PM
Ssj3vegito96
May 28 2014, 10:26 PM
A couple things i would like to point out

1. King kais planet doesn't explode. It's just a small fragment of what was a huge planet that had a core before beerus blew it up

2. To be fair, I don't think you can use great ape gohan falling on vegeta as proof for anything since you can't say how heavy he was
But then why are people allowed to put weights on Enlarged Piccolo and The Boulder Kid Goku lifted but we can't use Oozaru Gohan and put a weight on him? That's not fair...
True. I never said I agreed with people saying how heavy enlarged piccolo and the boulder are lol. Who's to say gohan would kill vegeta by crushing him? They can't lift much so the real issue could've been that vegeta just wouldn't have been able to get him off of him
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May 28 2014, 10:31 PM
Itachi
May 28 2014, 10:24 PM
You don't seem to understand the physics of the situation, but either way Goku couldn't survive Kai's planet being destroyed. That's all you need to know.
Survive king kai's planet exploding.......

it was obviously cell's attack that killed him which is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Freiza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>saiyan saga vegeta >planet level

raditz won't feel 91 petatons of energy which is equal to 90822179732.314 Megatons especially after he tanked this

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So you explain to me how the sun is supposed to effect him
Erhm no, as your spoiler points out, there are certain gaps will have it so that any blast won't affect you from a weaker opponent unless you suppress down. Piccolo eventually amped himself where he his attack had enough PL to actually hurt Raditz. Now ask anyone that actually does power gaps that uses any multipliers; official, customary or even divergent gaps will tell you that Cell who is horrible at amps won't have enough PL to hurt a fully healed MSSJ Goku let alone kill him. There's a reason why literally no Z fighter has survived a planet exploding and only the villains that have shown special DNA such as Freeza and Boo were shown to survive them.

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Itachi
May 28 2014, 10:37 PM
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May 28 2014, 10:31 PM
Itachi
May 28 2014, 10:24 PM
You don't seem to understand the physics of the situation, but either way Goku couldn't survive Kai's planet being destroyed. That's all you need to know.
Survive king kai's planet exploding.......

it was obviously cell's attack that killed him which is>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Freiza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>saiyan saga vegeta >planet level

raditz won't feel 91 petatons of energy which is equal to 90822179732.314 Megatons especially after he tanked this

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So you explain to me how the sun is supposed to effect him
Erhm no, as your spoiler points out, there are certain gaps will have it so that any blast won't affect you from a weaker opponent unless you suppress down. Piccolo eventually amped himself where he his attack had enough PL to actually hurt Raditz. Now ask anyone that actually does power gaps that uses any multipliers; official, customary or even divergent gaps will tell you that Cell who is horrible at amps won't have enough PL to hurt a fully healed MSSJ Goku let alone kill him. There's a reason why literally no Z fighter has survived a planet exploding and only the villains that have shown special DNA such as Freeza and Boo were shown to survive them.
again what is your point?rofl

Goku could have lowered his defenses since he didn't want to come back The attack is still above saiyan saga vegeta attack that would have destroyed earth and saiyan saga vegeta attack is still much much much much more than 91 petatons.

So are you going to keep ignoring that the energy output of the sun every second wouldn't even tickle raditz like i have proven?

SSJ Goku on would have survived namek explosion no problem the only problem is that he can't survive in space that much is clear
Edited by King Kakarot, May 28 2014, 10:43 PM.
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If we use GT then basically no one in Z is handling the Sun's heat, not when Si Xing Long is toasting everyone.
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