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Weakest Dbz Character to survive the sun
Topic Started: May 27 2014, 10:28 PM (7,780 Views)
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Seeing as how the entire emphasis of that statement and the context and Freeza's statement as well...sure. Much like a nuke the heat wouldn't last long anyway, a quick flash of it at most. (pssst...which is why I think only the radiation from a nuke would kill Z fighters anyway.)

However if it comes to prolonged exposure? I'd refer to Daemons very graphic post about what would happen.
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When someone can prove that heat resistance is in correlation with an increase in someone's battle power, we might be able to discuss something. Until then, these guys have pitiful heat resistance.
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May 30 2014, 02:25 AM
Seeing as how the entire emphasis of that statement and the context and Freeza's statement as well...sure. Much like a nuke the heat wouldn't last long anyway, a quick flash of it at most. (pssst...which is why I think only the radiation from a nuke would kill Z fighters anyway.)

However if it comes to prolonged exposure? I'd refer to Daemons very graphic post about what would happen.
Then I'm all for it.

Edit: it's already proven, just on a smaller scale.
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How come people are saying king kais planet exploding killed goku? How is that possible? It's just a huge rock without a core. earth and namek have cores so they could explode and be hot as hell. Cells self destruction could've just had a big amp. Majin vegeta nearly killed buu with his self destruction. Tien has tri beam which has an insane amp. It's not that big of a deal if semi perfect cell killed goku with his suicide attempt
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May 30 2014, 02:55 AM
How come people are saying king kais planet exploding killed goku? How is that possible? It's just a huge rock without a core. earth and namek have cores so they could explode and be hot as hell. Cells self destruction could've just had a big amp. Majin vegeta nearly killed buu with his self destruction. Tien has tri beam which has an insane amp. It's not that big of a deal if semi perfect cell killed goku with his suicide attempt
The problem with that is Cell's amps have been stated to be literally s*** by Piccolo...
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That's only his KHH amp because he got it from saiyan saga goku
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May 30 2014, 03:53 AM
That's only his KHH amp because he got it from saiyan saga goku
Chapter: 363 (DBZ 169), P9.1-3
Cell: "Son Goku...Piccolo...and Vegeta's cells were collected during the fight when Vegeta and co. came to Earth..."
Piccolo: "...Goku, from back then huh?...So that's why your Kamehameha just now wasn't anything special..."

"From back then" signifying that all his amps are in line with those of the Saiyan Arc, it's not just exclusive to the KHH. Piccolo, and Vegeta's amps from back then as well. The entire point of the statement is that Cell's amps are significantly low because his amps are copied from Saiyan Arc characters.
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Cell's Self-Destruction was a point that could blow up the planet. It was obviously created in a different way than just his regular ki amplification. While on a more biological scale, it was still his aspect of the bomb in the same way the cyborgs had hteir own bombs. No. 16's bomb was apparently strong enough to make Cell fear for his life and considering what Semi-Cell's bomb could do, Cell fear is probably justified if he believes their bombs are similar.

Add to that where Kaioshin's planet is well...small...incredibly so. There's a lot less point of Goku ding from the planet burst and actually dying from the fact that he had his face planted right up against Cell when he blew his *** up. And if No. 16's bomb can threaten a guy who was stronger than Goku (and was even capable of threatening the others like Goku as well) you can imagine what Semi-Cell as is seemingly vastly stronger bomb would do.
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It's likely Cell was also scared of the heat form the bomb and not the force it would output. Honestly I have trouble believing that DBZ fighters are scared of the force of a human bomb than they are scared of the heat it could output. The small planet's explosion might not create a lot of force, but it'd still create a considerable amount of heat as it's still a planet with a core.

Also the gaps don't work out with SSJ2 Vegeta (full strength) vs Majin Boo and Semi Cell (smacked around) vs MSSJ Goku (full strength). The % gap is smaller between the first two. The planet "explosion" definitely played apart. I mean even Kaio said that no one can survive a planet's explosion except Freeza.

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May 30 2014, 08:37 PM
I mean even Kaio said that no one can survive a planet's explosion except Freeza.
he never said that at all
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May 30 2014, 08:37 PM
It's likely Cell was also scared of the heat form the bomb and not the force it would output. Honestly I have trouble believing that DBZ fighters are scared of the force of a human bomb than they are scared of the heat it could output. The small planet's explosion might not create a lot of force, but it'd still create a considerable amount of heat as it's still a planet with a core.

Also the gaps don't work out with SSJ2 Vegeta (full strength) vs Majin Boo and Semi Cell (smacked around) vs MSSJ Goku (full strength). The % gap is smaller between the first two. The planet "explosion" definitely played apart. I mean even Kaio said that no one can survive a planet's explosion except Freeza.
I don't remember Kaio saying only Frieza could survive a planet's explosion. You said it yourself, the planet explosion heat will be considerable compared to the sun's, so having Frieza's cell, what Cell had to fear? I doubt the the heat by a long shot.

And your comparison's wrong because Vegeta was not at full strength no more after being brutally beaten by Majin Buu.
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Right I forgot about him vs Buu, but still gaps are off by a good amount even then. Also Cell still believed he would die along with the planet despite having regen that lived past Goku and Vegeta's blasts, he was only ready to tank even a Solar System buster after he realized that his cells could actually live past the heat.

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It still doesn't make sense. King kais planet doesn't have a core. Beerus blew up the original one that probably had a core
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May 30 2014, 09:56 PM
Right I forgot about him vs Buu, but still gaps are off by a good amount even then. Also Cell still believed he would die along with the planet despite having regen that lived past Goku and Vegeta's blasts, he was only ready to tank even a Solar System buster after he realized that his cells could actually live past the heat.
Well, I think he was taking into the account of his self destruct. Brofist's points on that motion I believe.

Goku and Vegeta's attack weren't channeled with their life force though, which can possibly and likely, give you a bigger amp then something like a KHH or the Final Flash. Tien's Neo Tri Beam is another example of this imo.
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I was about to say Raditz, but the person who made this topic already said it. The reason why Raditz would survive the sun, is simple...the output of the sun, in terms of Watts per second, when converted to petatons, is not as big as the energy required to bust the moon...which Raditz casually survived. This is something from another site:
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I was looking around this site, and I think this place doesn't accept calcs like this or somethin...
Still, I agree with the topic maker.
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