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Post Yardrat Power Levels
Topic Started: May 27 2014, 06:17 PM (2,605 Views)
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May 30 2014, 02:06 AM
So because he is mad means he gets a rage boost? I suggest you reread the portions of the manga where Gohan gets a rage boost. He basically loses consciousness and the ability to act on his own will. Going back to the Saiyan arc, he even forgets the feats that he accomplishes while enraged. Being angry is meaningless, because Gohan did not share the qualities that he had when he was being fuelled by rage. The statement tops it off, because Gohan is showing that he was in control.
Yeah, that's kinda how rage boosts work.... :huh: . I don't need to reread anything. This is just your interpretation of what is going on. Nowhere am I lead to believe Freeza and Piccolo are forgoing the rage boost Gohan, IMO, clearly had. He didn't have the qualities of a rage boost? He looks angry to me and is screaming, "Die Freeza!" That's good enough for me. To each his own though. If you want to see things this way, be my guest.
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Anger does not mean rage boost, Prince. Gohan says it himself in the Boo arc. He says that he was angry, but not like he was against Cell, meaning he couldn't get a rage boost. Gohan is still able to fight angrily without being boosted in power.

If he's angry enough, he'll receive a rage boost. I think he's angry enough.
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So he was more angry when nobody died compared to when he was fighting to save Piccolo and Krillin?
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May 30 2014, 02:12 AM
So he was more angry when nobody died compared to when he was fighting to save Piccolo and Krillin?
I think that I already specified that he wasn't as angry, but the fact is that Piccolo could die, and I think it should be apparent to anyone that Gohan likes Piccolo more. I mean he charges head first without even thinking. Seems like a rage boost to me.
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It's noted by both Vegeta and Piccolo that he's gotten much stronger. There's no indication this is due to his rage boost.
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May 30 2014, 02:16 AM
It's noted by both Vegeta and Piccolo that he's gotten much stronger. There's no indication this is due to his rage boost.
No, it isn't clear whether they are referring to just his regular strength or his strength coupled with his outbursts. Even after that Zenkai, Vegeta doesn't even remark that Gohan has surpassed himself. What reason do I have to believe he's gotten that strong without a rage boost?
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May 30 2014, 02:21 AM
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May 30 2014, 02:16 AM
It's noted by both Vegeta and Piccolo that he's gotten much stronger. There's no indication this is due to his rage boost.
No, it isn't clear whether they are referring to just his regular strength or his strength coupled with his outbursts. Even after that Zenkai, Vegeta doesn't even remark that Gohan has surpassed himself. What reason do I have to believe he's gotten that strong without a rage boost?
When Gohan had used his rage previously, it's been mentioned that his power had gone back down. It doesn't this time.
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May 30 2014, 02:16 AM
It's noted by both Vegeta and Piccolo that he's gotten much stronger. There's no indication this is due to his rage boost.
No, it isn't clear whether they are referring to just his regular strength or his strength coupled with his outbursts. Even after that Zenkai, Vegeta doesn't even remark that Gohan has surpassed himself. What reason do I have to believe he's gotten that strong without a rage boost?
When Gohan had used his rage previously, it's been mentioned that his power had gone back down. It doesn't this time.
So that automatically means he didn't receive a rage boost? You're gonna need more evidence than that to prove your point. I could easily argue that it's not mentioned that it remained the same either. I could also argue that if Gohan were that powerful, he would have used that power earlier. I mean honestly, am I seriously expected to believe Gohan went from weaker than Vegeta, after his Zenkai, to around Freeza's third form in a matter of minutes? Come on.
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As I have stated multiple times, when Gohan raged just chapters earlier, it was mentioned that his power was due to rage. In this case, it was his power that was mentioned.
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May 30 2014, 02:29 AM
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May 30 2014, 02:25 AM
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May 30 2014, 02:21 AM
Emmeth
May 30 2014, 02:16 AM
It's noted by both Vegeta and Piccolo that he's gotten much stronger. There's no indication this is due to his rage boost.
No, it isn't clear whether they are referring to just his regular strength or his strength coupled with his outbursts. Even after that Zenkai, Vegeta doesn't even remark that Gohan has surpassed himself. What reason do I have to believe he's gotten that strong without a rage boost?
When Gohan had used his rage previously, it's been mentioned that his power had gone back down. It doesn't this time.
So that automatically means he didn't receive a rage boost? You're gonna need more evidence than that to prove your point. I could easily argue that it's not mentioned that it remained the same.
I'm not saying he didn't get a rage boost. I'm just saying the rage boost didn't drop.
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May 30 2014, 02:32 AM
As I have stated multiple times, when Gohan raged just chapters earlier, it was mentioned that his power was due to rage. In this case, it was his power that was mentioned.
Rage boosts are Gohan's power so I fail to see what this argument is supposed to prove. Once again, you're gonna need more than rage not being mentioned this time around. The scene itself implies a rage boost sooooo...
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, May 30 2014, 02:35 AM.
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Imagine this: The potential unlock from Guru makes so that his rage boost power stays permanent. Does that work for you?
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May 30 2014, 02:37 AM
Imagine this: The potential unlock from Guru makes so that his rage boost power stays permanent. Does that work for you?
Uh, his power up does steadily increase his power, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that Gohan received a rage boost when attacking third form Freeza. Freeza has already seen this rage boost, so he shouldn't have to mention it. Vegeta has seen Gohan angry prior to this, but not to such a degree up to this point. Piccolo on the other hand is used to this so I don't see why he would mention it either.
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I'm not entirely convinced Gohan used a typical rage boost against 3rd Form Freeza. Unlike previously, he seems to be in full control when blasting his opponent.
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May 30 2014, 02:44 AM
I'm not entirely convinced Gohan used a typical rage boost against 3rd Form Freeza. Unlike previously, he seems to be in full control when blasting his opponent.
To each their own, I'm not really trying to prove anything here, though I will point out that Freeza didn't know Gohan was Saiyajin until after he said he's become a completely different person. I will also point out that Gohan charges Freeza without even thinking and he has white eyes when he does so, implying he's pretty pissed. I mean SSJ2 Gohan was in control, of his actions, but his personality had completely changed from kind to sadistic.
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It's just that feats and statements imply he's beyond your assessment. Also, it's not AT's style to make Vegeta and Piccolo comment on Gohan's rage.
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