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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 28 2014, 09:04 PM Post #106 |
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Being a bit cynical, aren't you? I don't doubt that there are many cases of such a thing, but it's not an 'epidemic'. You do realise that by putting forward this view and arguing for it, you're essentially encouraging other women to do just that, right? If you constantly say ''Woman are this'', then a lot of women are going to start being 'that', either to spite you or because they're constantly being told that they're 'that'. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 28 2014, 09:05 PM Post #107 |
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It's the same as men thinking they have to be a***** to get a woman, or thinking they're nothing but rapists and murderers because jaded women have screamed that at them their whole lives. |
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Jun 28 2014, 09:08 PM Post #108 |
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Not at all. Open your eyes. Go to that site and see the hundreds and thousands of guys on there saying the same stuff. We are in a matriarchy. A Matriarchy causes some issues while a Patriarchy has it's own set of issues as well. It's just life and the natural order of balance. Sweden is our future, I study them a lot and if you do your research you will understand what I'm talking about. It was true for me KP. It's not about that, they aren't intentionally doing that. It's just their nature. Women want a strong dominant man who can provide her good genes for her children. An Alpha male worthy of procreating. Yet she wants a man who is nurturing and caring and helpful in raising these children. This is your beta male. Women go back and forth with these instances because their needs cannot be met by one type of man in most cases. This is how men and women have been since the dawn of time. A few techniological advancements have not changed our biology. Same for men. We want women who can bare our children and we don't want women who have had too many sexual partners because it feels dirty and messes up our chances to have our bloodline passed down. We aren't as far removed from animals as you would think. Edited by p123, Jun 28 2014, 09:11 PM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 28 2014, 09:10 PM Post #109 |
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Oh my God, I thought that the 'Patriarchy' would be the most ridiculous thing I'd ever hear, but the 'Matriarchy'? I'm sorry, you're going to have to give me a few minutes to recover. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 28 2014, 09:11 PM Post #110 |
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I dunno, P. Sounds pretty similar to something else.
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Jun 28 2014, 09:13 PM Post #111 |
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Labels have a purpose. It's there to define a specific set of acts or courses of actions. Generalization and labeling are normal means of conversation. People have to realize that at the end of the day the individual is not effected by these statistics and anyone can be anything at any time. But if a lot of people are like this, why not take notice? |
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Jun 28 2014, 09:15 PM Post #112 |
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What's so wrong with those terms Snake? Russia is an example of Patriarchy and Sweden is an example of Matriarchy. That should spell out the differences very quickly. You are an easy guy to entertain Snake! Come on over let's get some drinks and I'll have you falling out of your chair all night. How does that benefit me? Guys having a good time attract women, so that's good for me! |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 28 2014, 09:17 PM Post #113 |
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Izanagi!
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I must've missed the memo telling me that I'm ruled over and oppressed by women. Considering the ruling on Abortion clinics in Massachusetts and the general view of women's reproductive rights in the USA in particular, I've been under the false assumption that we weren't living in a Matriarchy. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 28 2014, 09:17 PM Post #114 |
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My internal beast agrees with you, especially about the last part. The woman part, though, I dunno. You don't think a guy can be alpha and beta simultaneously? |
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Jun 28 2014, 09:25 PM Post #115 |
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We can of course. Everyone has alpha and beta sides. You wouldn't survive if you were one or the other, some are more heavily on one side some more on the other. Each can be successful in it's own right. There is a reason we are all here today, our ancestors survived and whatever got you here was a survivalist beast. I've been able to achieve a balance I'm happy with in the male world. Proper levels of alpha and beta which allow me to be successful. As a man you have to understand you won't win every fight, but you don't have to be someone's b*** either. There's a balance. A true alpha male can't function properly in this society. He would never accept having a superior and would only be concerned about himself. This is the modern world and you can't be pure neanderthal. You have to give up things in the short run to win in the long term. |
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Jun 28 2014, 09:32 PM Post #116 |
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We are definitely living in a patriarchy, not a matriarchy. I'm not a super feminist or anything crazy like that, but I do have the common sense to acknowledge that fact. Women can be evil. You're right. But so can men. I've experienced both sides. I guess you could say I'm more well-rounded than you, P, since you're so caught up on using your personal life for the sake of argument. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that we live in a matriarchy. There is, however, plenty of evidence that can be used to argue the complete opposite. |
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Jun 28 2014, 09:37 PM Post #117 |
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Yes the men have the power still, which is why I didn't label America as anything. We are seeing a significant shift in power lately though. Anything that is pro masculine is view as idiotic and laughable. Men being men nowadays is really looked down upon. Feminism is getting stronger and stronger. Political correctness is gaining every day. Have you guys watched the news? You can't say anything anymore without thinking about all the consequences. You can't speak freely without being shamed. Men still have the power and for the most part will continue to do so, but women are definitely taking more and more and more. Guys are becoming metrosexuals, women slooting around their younger years, stay at home dads, women being the bread winners, are all signs of a Matriarchy coming. The constant push to get women on the same level as men in the workplace is a feminist move. What should be promoted more is family. We are a team, if men had to be out of work for 9 months and push out babies that change their body and then been gifted with the nurturing gene, well then we would be better designed to raise these beasts. Male hamsters will eat their young because they don't recgonize them, a female hamster will kill that male hamster to protect them. I think the proper lifestyle is one based on family. When we care about our young, it ensures our future. We've gone away from that. Men should be more career focused instead of trying to get more notches on their belt and women should be more family focused and stop worrying about partying with their friends and get their lives prepared for being the best for their children. Edited by p123, Jun 28 2014, 09:40 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Jun 28 2014, 09:39 PM Post #118 |
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I don't know about that. There'd have to be a significant shift for women to essentially take over the country. I just don't see that happening, at least not in our lifetimes. |
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Jun 28 2014, 09:41 PM Post #119 |
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And that's bad how...? I don't want America to become a matriarchy, but I don't want it to stay a patriarchy either. I'm glad we're seeing these advancements. It allows more men (and women) to be who they are. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 28 2014, 09:41 PM Post #120 |
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So, the US Supreme Court removed the absolutely pathetic 35-feet (iirc) buffer zone around Abortion clinics in Massachusetts on Thursday, and other States are to follow suit. Now, pro-lifers can protest and harass any woman entering the clinic without any sort of distance being present. 'Freedom of Speech' won out against common decency and a woman's right to privacy and, in a lot of future cases, their reproductive rights. Hard to see the curbing of free speech at the moment. Also, more women are becoming bread winners? More Dads are staying at home? Dear Lord, the end is nigh. |
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