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Differences in power between the 3 SSj's (Android arc)
Topic Started: May 25 2014, 05:36 AM (1,568 Views)
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Vegeta seems to think himself quite superior to everyone. He is arrogant and cocky, but nobody really seems to disagree with him on how strong he truly is.

Just wondering what you guys think the differences in their powers are? I guess I should include Piccolo, seeing as how he was compared to a Super Saiyan.

I have; SSj Vegeta> SSj Goku> SSj Trunks> Piccolo

My numbers;

SSj Vegeta - 350,000,000
SSj Goku - 325,000,000
SSj Trunks - 300,000,000
Piccolo - 250,000,000

Do you think these fit? Or are their gaps bigger?
Edited by Saiyan Paladin, May 25 2014, 05:43 AM.
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I suppose the power difference between Goku and Vegeta would be minimal, maybe barely noticeable. Trunks would probably be a good amount behind either of them, and even if he's improved Piccolo may rival or even be stronger than him.
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Vegeta-450 million
Goku-425 million
Trunks-400 million
Piccolo-375 million
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May 25 2014, 05:46 AM
I suppose the power difference between Goku and Vegeta would be minimal, maybe barely noticeable. Trunks would probably be a good amount behind either of them, and even if he's improved Piccolo may rival or even be stronger than him.
As much as I would like to agree with this... what are your thoughts on how Kami/Piccolo still seem to group the SSJ's above Piccolo?
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I agree with Kaboom reasoning, and Saiyan Paladin's numbers.
I actually don't have Vegeta and Goku really that far apart, if at all. Goku was sick, and Piccolo undoubtedly hadn't seen Goku's full power during their training, therefore I don't think it's safe to assume that he was fully aware of what Goku's ability was.

Also being a Namekian, I also don't have Piccolo ridiculously strong. I have him topping off at 225-250 mil during the #20 fight.
During the Trunks Arc, I have him closing in on 10 mil, and 22.5-25x increase over 3 years by training with a Super Saiyan seems reasonable to me.

Goku and Vegeta I have around 400 mil, give or take, and with Trunks I actually have him considerably lower than either of them simply because it's likely that he didn't spend 3 years training in between his trips to the past. He seems pretty much the same age when we see him 3 years later.
I have Trunks closer to around 300-325 mil, well below Goku and Vegeta, but still a good amount over Piccolo.
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Piccolo (Weighted): 275,000,000
Unweighted: 357,500,000

Trunks: 8,000,000
SSJ: 400,000,000

Goku: 8,250,000
Sick SSJ: 300,000,000
Healthy SSJ: 412,500,000

Vegeta: 8,500,000
SSJ: 425,000,000

Piccolo (Post-Kami, Weighted): 550,000,000
Unweighted: 715,000,000

I don't see any reason why the 3 SSJ's should be too far away in power. Also, Trunks thought that him, Piccolo, Goku, and Vegeta would be enough to destroy the Androids of his time showing Piccolo is at least nearing in on the SSJ's.
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May 25 2014, 06:20 AM
As much as I would like to agree with this... what are your thoughts on how Kami/Piccolo still seem to group the SSJ's above Piccolo?
I think it's probably correct, and I guess I should have clarified better that I don't think Piccolo being stronger than the improved Trunks is very likely. But Goku and Vegeta are the heavier hitters in question.
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I really don't think they are too far apart:
Vegeta: 5,600,000
-SSJ: 280,000,000
Goku: 5,400,000
-SSJ: 270,000,000
Trunks: 5,000,000
-SSJ: 250,000,000
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Vegeta was stated by Piccolo to be somewhat stronger than Goku, but the difference in power is barely noticeable, the gap is smaller than Majin Vegeta/ CG Gohan was. Now Trunks should be close to Goku, and piccolo rivalring Trunks.
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I don't get why people are putting Trunks so high.
He didn't spend 3 years training like Goku and Vegeta did, and he was behind Goku when we first see him. Trunks probably spent a few months training at the very most.

I still put him above Piccolo through.
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But we never said he made huge gains, just that he is somewhat close to Goku's power :)
Unless you believe Goku is far ahead if him, which is possible.
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I don't even believe he's comparable to Goku and Vegeta at this point. There's nothing to suggest that he is.

Unless he's like Gohan and can go from below SSj to being stronger than any of them within a year's time, but Gohan not only was training with Goku, but he also was training in enhanced conditions.

Putting Trunks near Goku and Vegeta simply doesn't make sense.
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I can agree with you, I never really had a placement for Trunks at that time. I suppose you also think that Android Arc Piccolo is not much compare to Goku/Vegeta.
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It's also noted that Piccolo trained with SS Kakarrot and admitted he was stronger than the sick one we saw. And of course Piccolo admitted Vegeta was stronger.

However, I don't think Vegeta is a great deal stronger, but I do think the difference is enough to make a difference in a fight.
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Are you sure there is a statement about Piccolo > Sick Goku, if so I would be glad to see it :)
Seriously though I just dont remeber, I only recall Piccolo saying Goku should produce more power as a SSJ or something.
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