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| Goddess Ultimecia | May 23 2014, 02:59 PM Post #1 |
 
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Being a circumcised male myself, I've always thought that such a thing was normal and that every boy was born like this...however, I've recently found out that I was born uncircumcised and was circumcised shortly after birth (far out man). Then I thought to myself "Well hey, there must be some sort of great benefit to circumcising children at birth" but the more I look at it, the more I see that the benefits are almost negligible and the only war use for it would be people in notoriously sandy areas like Deserts which obviously not every boy in the world lives in. On top of that I also found out that a LARGE portion of boys in the U.S. are circumcised at birth and that some times it's because of religious beliefs. I don't know about female "circumcision" except for the horrors I hear out of the Middle East and Africa where they mutilate young girl's genitalia to the point that they can never enjoy sexual intercourse and they'll likely be in pain for the rest of their life, but I don't know if there are any other methods so can someone please enlighten me on that? What are your thoughts on this? Do you think circumcision at birth should be mandatory? Do you think it should be illegal? Personally, I think it should be outlawed. You're essentially mutilating a person's genitalia against their will right at birth, I'm sorry but I would've liked a choice in the matter it's my body and I'll be damned if I don't have a say in what happens to it. If I had gotten to the age of 18 and learned about circumcision then sure I'd go schedule an appointment for it, but that's a conscious decision I make, not someone else who thinks they know what's best for me. |
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| + Pelador | May 23 2014, 03:16 PM Post #2 |
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Circumcision has nothing to do with genitalia. It's a removal of the foreskin from the penis and given the very minor procedure is done properly, should cause no issues whatsoever. For males anyway. I can't say the same for females who undergo their equivalent of the procedure. I don't know much about that. I don't really know why it would be such a big deal. Yes maybe it should have been a decision made by you in principle. I can't see how that decision will affect the rest of your life though unless the surgery was botched for some reason. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | May 23 2014, 03:22 PM Post #3 |
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I've always been under the assumption that any sort of removal of anything with the penis or scrotum were considered genital mutilation. It's wrong by principle because said baby doesn't get a say in the matter, in a country like the U.S. where we throw a pissfit over proper labelling you'd think something like forcibly removing something from a baby would be a pretty big deal. |
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| + Pelador | May 23 2014, 03:30 PM Post #4 |
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It's not mutilation, it's the removal of some skin. A very small amount actually. It might be more of a big deal if it harmed them in some way or affected them later in life but it's purely cosmetic. Although it can sometimes provide benefits and can be easier to keep clean. |
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| lunar2 | May 23 2014, 03:57 PM Post #5 |
 
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the foreskin serves an important function in protecting the glans, and keeping it from drying out. it also has something like a quarter of the nerve endings of the entire penis. circumcision leads to a significant loss of sensitivity, for no measurable benefit. it doesn't matter how minor or major a procedure is. if it's not medically necessary, you don't do it without the patient's consent. and a surgery that is performed without anesthetic, that has no measurable benefits, and significant drawbacks, is certainly not medically necessary. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 24 2014, 03:53 AM Post #6 |
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I'm currently pregnant, and if I have a boy, I'm seriously considering not circumcising. I've read into it, and don't find any significant differences in health between circumcised and uncircumcised boys. Yes, there's a potential increase in bladder infections, etc., but that's never certain. Like you, TConner, My husband didn't know that he'd been circumcised, and I was the one who had to break it to him. He seemed to believe that some boys were born circumcised, and some weren't. I told him that there's no such thing as a boy who is born circumcised. Part of the reason why I know what the difference is, is because I've been with a guy who wasn't circumcised, and he never experienced any real issues with his foreskin other than potential injury to it. And due to the US being obsessed with cleanliness, I don't think that there's any real data to show an increase in probability for bladder/urinary tract infections for uncircumcised boys in the US. I believe all these "increased risks" are educated guesses without actual data to back it up. But in all honesty, with these studies, when your control group is an overwhelming majority, can you seriously say that these results are truly accurate? How can you compare the two if there's virtually no latter to compare the control to? Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 24 2014, 04:12 AM.
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May 24 2014, 03:58 AM Post #7 |
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The only people who really circumcise their children are Americans, and that's due to deep religious roots. I won't be circumcising my kid if I for some reason get pregnant with a boy. |
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| + Pelador | May 24 2014, 10:20 AM Post #8 |
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Pretty sure Muslims and Jews circumcise too. I might be wrong about that. |
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| Shei Len | May 24 2014, 10:31 AM Post #9 |
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...no. Circumcision came from Jewish tradition, to separate God's people from the Gentiles. It definitely isn't an "american" thing. |
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| Meowth | May 24 2014, 10:39 AM Post #10 |
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The child doesn't get a say in something that can have an impact on their health in later life, so I don't agree with it. Can it be done in later life? I imagine there would be more risk involved but atleast you can make the choice for yourself then, instead of it being imposed upon you. |
 
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| + Pelador | May 24 2014, 11:06 AM Post #11 |
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Anyone happen to know if there's an operation to replace it? |
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| lunar2 | May 24 2014, 02:44 PM Post #12 |
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getting a circumcision as an adult is actually safer, because you have a developed immune system to fight off any potential infection. the only downside is that you're actually going to remember the pain, so the doctor has to "waste" money on a local anesthetic. @pelador. circumcision is not a specific procedure. it is the removal of all or part of the foreskin. it covers everything from cutting the tip of the foreskin off with a sterilized scalpel in a hospital to removing up to 70% of the skin of the penis with a dirty knife or a glass shard behind some bushes. there are also more exotic practices, such as an african tribe that practices testicular crushing, or australian aborigines who cut the urethra from the base of the penis to the glans. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 24 2014, 10:27 PM Post #13 |
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Actually when you're an adult, since the skin isn't as elastic and supple as an infant, getting a circumcision is actually more dangerous the older you get. There's more potential for damage. |
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| + Steve | May 24 2014, 10:44 PM Post #14 |
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I think it should be illegal at birth too, if I was circumcised I'd resent my parents for making that decision for me. Like the only actual benefit, seems to be only in America this applies, is that people find uncircumcised ones disgusting so you might get turned down due to being "weird" But if people turn you down for such a little(so to speak) thing you shouldn't bother with them anyway  What is the actual religious reason/reasons for them? What sadistic person thought it up? 'Cause I bet like one person got an infection in their foreskin so foreskin became SATAN and must be abolished! Or something similarly ridiculous. Can't see how it's "dirtier" It's really not a hard thing to wash. You're born with it because it's supposed to be there... |
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| lunar2 | May 24 2014, 11:01 PM Post #15 |
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so you trade off higher risk of infection for higher risk of damage. i'd call that a wash, at worst. certainly not a great reason to do it to someone before they can consent. |
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