Master Saberoph

May 23 2014, 05:00 AM

Uh no. Even Anime wise Gohan Boo is still the strongest... since most of the evidence saying he's not is heavily contradicted by everything stated and shown before.

Master Saberoph

May 23 2014, 05:07 AM

Yes they do, but even in the Anime it was already established that SS3 Kakarrot was a joke after Fat Boo... so, it's already contradicted it's self and when something is contradicted multiple time, then it's no longer reliable.

That was all contradicted before any more statements were made.

Of course the Manga says he's weaker, but to say the Anime doesn't you would have to be extremely bias and ignore all the larger evidence.

Master Saberoph

May 23 2014, 05:23 AM

You would still have to ignore ALL the evidence prior to that.

That's what I'm saying, within the series it's self, there is still more evidence saying he's not.

And once again, to ignore that is very bias and mine as well say the Anime is 100% correct if you follow that logic.

I would rather go with the evidence that is more dominant than the heavily contradicted ones.

Master Saberoph

May 23 2014, 05:34 AM

Yes and No.

I look at it as if it's heavily contradicted then it isn't reliable, and with that evidence being heavily contradicted... I can't ignore everything that's been presented and established before it to say he's stronger. Even following Toei's logic, it makes n sense.

I do understand why people believe Chibi Boo being the strongest, but I feel it's ignoring way too much following that.

Yusuke Urameshi

May 23 2014, 04:25 AM

1) Why isn't that plausible? Super Buu never had any intentions of blowing up planets left and right. He was constantly looking for challengers to face him and had a lot of control of his actions. Kid Buu, on the other hand was just insane and wanted to destroy everything. That's what makes him more "dangerous" than Super Buu.

2) And? It's already obvious that Kid Buu > Fat Buu. I don't know what exactly you are trying to prove here.

3) See 4)

4) Wha? He actually asks Vegeta if his plan was to bring the boys to the Kaioshin planet and was surprised when Vegeta told him no. That's a clear indicator that Goku felt the need of Gotenks and Gohan to beat Pure Buu. Vegeta tells him that the humans need to take care of their actions for a change which Goku agrees to. It might have not been the most simple way of getting things done but it was a change from having the Z-Fighters do all the work. If this were all about simplicity in killing Kid Buu, nothing would stop Goku and Vegeta from Popping out Gogeta and making a fool out of Kid Buu.

5) Because like I said before, the plan was to get the humans to take care of their actions for once and have them take part in destroying a main villain.

6) Really? And yet he needs to panic at the sight of Super Buu? Obviously, something isn't working very well with your logic.

7) Goku never admits inferiority at all. He fights evenly with Kid Buu and underestimates the strain of using SSJ3 in a living body. Furthermore, SSJ3 Goku feels that him gathering back his ki and charging an amped attack would be enough to beat Kid Buu hence why Vegeta stalls for him. And just where the hell are you getting Kid Buu being invincible from?

8) You need to watch the Anime again then. Yamcha easily stomps Oiblu and other fighters in the Otherworld, something he would never be able to do in the Manga unless you somehow believe Yamcha is well above 100% Frieza.

Yusuke Urameshi

May 23 2014, 06:48 AM

1) As a matter of facf it does. Let me put this in perspective for you. An insane criminal armed with a weapon is more dangerous than a bodybuilder who can lift a lot of weight despite the bodybuilder being stronger.

2) And? Why should that make him weaker than Kid Buu?

4) What's funny is that your telling me not to twist words when your doing the same thing yourself. Vegeta tells Goku that he should use the Spirit Bomb because the humans need to take action for a change. Goku doesn't argue against it because he agrees with him hence the ending we have for this arc. If they needed a convient win, all they neeed to do is just fuse. Vegeta already used Potara once with Goku. If the situation with Kid Buu is that hopeless, they wouldn't have hesitated with not using Potara.

5) Why do they need to do that? Goku and Vegeta have a plan so their not going to question it.

6) And you've completely ignored the fact that Goku doesn't want to have anything to do with Super Buu. Could this picture be any more black and white then it already is? Seriously!

7) He was shown to fight on par with Kid Buu. Where is the disperency in all of this? Did you not see the part where Goku says he would take out Kid Buu with an charged, amped attack?

8) And your completely missing the point that the Anime does it's own thing seperate from the Manga based on what we've seen.

If's hard to believe that their's actually people in this day of age that believe all the Kid Buu hyping. I thought everyone changed from those primitive days.

TheMightiestWarrior

May 23 2014, 09:21 AM

Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6
Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!”
Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.”

Goku thinks he can manage something that means Kid Buu's Ki is significantly lowered compared to the old one and he could be able to destroy Buu with his SSJ3. Now you're not gonna say Goku isn't a reliable Ki sensor here. And Goku and Vegeta are not stupid to comment about his size instead of his power when they are at such critical situation. Goku also stated that he could be destroying Buu if he had 1 minute to power up and gather his Ki for a fully powered KHH.

Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku >= Kid Buu is flat out stated in the manga.

Kid Buu was always considered to be the most DANGEROUS form of Buu, never was he stated to be the STRONGEST form of Buu.