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SSj Goten and SSj (Kid) Trunks powers.; Pre and post RoSaT
Topic Started: May 20 2014, 04:11 AM (1,473 Views)
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Goten and Trunks are the walking defination of Mssj. Plus Trunks was able to alter ssj power for the fusion.
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There are multiple answers for them being left behind...

1. The situation it's self. Kakarrot, Vegeta and Gohan was in a hurry to know what the hell was going on... so they were in too much of a hurry to haul around two children.

2. Like what was already said... they're kids and very immature and would get in the way.

3. Also said before... they don't have access to SS2 and would be pretty useless.

4. They're lack of experience, which works with reason 2.

There are many answers to that question, and many more than what I've posted... and I would probably agree with most of them.
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Just look at how they performed against Buu. They could have taken him out very quickly but instead chose to d*** around. Their lack of real battle experience would cause a lot of problems.
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well to be fair regardless of all that goku still took a chance with fusion knowing that
they have little experience
they fool around/immature after seeing them behave, whilst before he had not seen them act per the bringing them along part
as per being in a hurry that is true but i mean thats pretty iffy

personally
ssj trunks/goten>18

pre rosat, trunks is a bit stronger then goten, post rosat however i have them equals just cause i feel goten just had more motivation/determination to train, shown by the fact how his mom just died and when they get in the rosat trunks wants to fool around,whilst gotens already going hard at it, i just feel like he took his training for the most part very serious and knew what was happening and what was on the line, while trunks not so much, also trunks is a brat
and errybody likes goten more is another reason i like to have them equals post rosat
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I agree with that. That's why I feel that the Boo arc should've happened 10 not 7 years after Cell, with Goten and Trunks already being trained with also being more experienced.

I think the Boo arc would've been a little better.
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May 21 2014, 01:04 AM
also trunks is a brat
and errybody likes goten more is another reason i like to have them equals post rosat
eh...

since when...

i like trunks a lot

actually i like him more than goten, i think

...

so no

on-topic: i dun think dey got much stronger in the rosat but before dey r around ssj Goku (cell-games) level maybe even a bit stronger
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nah u tripping SHC, oh man i forgot to add post rosat where they place
since pre rosat i had them higher then 18 as ssj, post they are a decent amount stronger
but not too extreme just cause there was no need for them to be separately much stronger
only gotenks needed to make big gains, while other users of rosat goku,gohan,vegeta future trunks ect.. all made big gains cause in there respective arcs there was no fusion and they themselves HAD to have the gains, while here
i see it as just that gotenks needed 'em and not the fusees

saberoph, the added years would help a bit, but what BOG has shown, i think they were still a bit too foolish with there choices, attitude and behavior
so i would say once their in there teens would be more appropriate, 14-16 years after cell
they didnt mature as early as gohan did, they had no guidance really
goten missing a father, gohan busy with studies and chi-chi i dunno, but granpa would have been good on him
while trunks had it bad, vegeta... nuff said, bulma bad influence imo, hes rich, and grand parents
didnt seem like they took care of him either
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But see...

Gotenks power is also Goten and Trunks' power... it all didn't come out of thin air, and other than the Fusion Multiplier, there isn't a magical number added to it... it's only the Fusion Multiplier, and where it was proven to be impressive, it wasn't proven to be all that great.

Besides... Goten and Trunks had More time out of Fusion than in it. Gotenks only lasts 30 minutes and they have to wait 1 hour before they can fuse again. So, Goten and Trunks had more time to train than Gotenks did.
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true, but i believe in the fact that small individual gains result in exponential fusion gains so it works out for me.
wouldn't having goten and trunks equal to goku and vegeta give u a rival less boost vegito ?
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For as young as they are? They just got started, where Kakarrot and Vegeta have been at It for years.

Besides... they're hybrids and DBZ has shown us that hybrid increase quicker than others and even quicker given the emotional push... which they did have and more so Goten.

That's my issue with them having little gains... it's contradicted by what we already know about hybrids.
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im just saying gotenks would be a vegito, cept the exp,skills,senses, and rage boost- wow thats a lot lol
i just dont feel they would be as strong as the adults form for form, somehting would have been noted
while they have made big gains throughout their life, it doesnt seem right that they would get them during the rosat
point was to make gotenks strong, they themselves could be freeza tier for all it mattered, the point/focus was on gotenks
and nothing was noted of their own gains just gotenks in the rosat
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I get what you're saying and see where you're coming from, but with them having more time outside of fusion than in and how hybrids are already established... I find them having a small increase is contradicted by what's already presented and established.

That's just how I'm looking at it.
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