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Science vs Religion
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+ Pointer	Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM Post #121
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. Edited by Pointer, Jun 8 2014, 01:09 PM.



+ Ginyu	Jun 8 2014, 01:24 PM Post #122
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. Okay, listen, just because you don't understand quantum mechanics, doesn't mean that it's illogical. Scientist have studied that for many many years, you can't just expect to make logic out of it by reading a few articles on the internet, neither me or you understands this nor will we ever understand it because we have not studied it. What we do know however is that these theories are supported by evidence, they are not made up. And please stick to one enter in your posts, you're spreading the page with your empty lines, it's kinda annoying. On top of that: I have actually heard about your first example and I just want to add that it was a miscalculation. Science has never disporven E=mc² Edit: The caps are also annoying in my opinion, if you want to emphasize something please make it bold. Edited by Ginyu, Jun 8 2014, 01:26 PM.
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+ Pointer	Jun 8 2014, 01:32 PM Post #123
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 01:24 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. Okay, listen, just because you don't understand quantum mechanics, doesn't mean that it's illogical. Scientist have studied that for many many years, you can't just expect to make logic out of it by reading a few articles on the internet, neither me or you understands this nor will we ever understand it because we have not studied it. What we do know however is that these theories are supported by evidence, they are not made up. And please stick to one enter in your posts, you're spreading the page with your empty lines, it's kinda annoying. On top of that: I have actually heard about your first example and I just want to add that it was a miscalculation. Science has never disporven E=mc² okay you dont like that i made this because i thought it would make the whole a little bit better in terms of reading, But okay i got it. No you got me wrong i dont mean the braeking E=mc^2 literally , But back in janua.sedwe... Oh never mind it is okay I am....too tired for proving something to someone ...in the end it wont have any effect, you believe in what you believe. So it is pointless.. Edited by Pointer*, Jun 8 2014, 01:32 PM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jun 8 2014, 03:12 PM Post #124
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	How do you guys explain miracles? Like supernatural things happening to people
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+ Ginyu	Jun 8 2014, 03:36 PM Post #125
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Ssj3vegito96 Jun 8 2014, 03:12 PM How do you guys explain miracles? Like supernatural things happening to people You're going to need to be a little bit more specific here. Though most of the times it's one person or two people claiming something happened. In those cases they are most likely lying to get attention or just people hallucinating
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Jun 8 2014, 03:43 PM Post #126
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Both my brothers have had supernatural stuff happen to them. Sounded crazy to me at first since I wasn't there but I believe them
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+ Ginyu	Jun 8 2014, 03:50 PM Post #127
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Ssj3vegito96 Jun 8 2014, 03:43 PM Both my brothers have had supernatural stuff happen to them. Sounded crazy to me at first since I wasn't there but I believe them Like i said, you need to be more specific. What happened to them?
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yokip	Jun 8 2014, 04:20 PM Post #128
Posts: 36 Group: Member Member #11,272 Joined: April 29, 2014	Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. 1) Most of what you said is made up photons don't even have mass so a neutrino cannot have less mass than a photon because a photon doesn't have any mass to begin with meaning it cannot pass the speed of light. 2) A black hole is a high mass in a packed volume giving it a powerful gravity which bends light around it making it pitch black. Matter is mostly empty space for all the human bodies leaving only electrons and the other subatomic particles, all seven billion human bodies would fit in the space of a sugar cube. How matter (atoms) behaves in a black hole is a mystery still. 3) Everything has an explanation if we don't know it is still there.



+ Pointer	Jun 8 2014, 04:31 PM Post #129
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:20 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. 1) Most of what you said is made up photons don't even have mass so a neutrino cannot have less mass than a photon because a photon doesn't have any mass to begin with meaning it cannot pass the speed of light. 2) A black hole is a high mass in a packed volume giving it a powerful gravity which bends light around it making it pitch black. Matter is mostly empty space for all the human bodies leaving only electrons and the other subatomic particles, all seven billion human bodies would fit in the space of a sugar cube. How matter (atoms) behaves in a black hole is a mystery still. 3) Everything has an explanation if we don't know it is still there. photon has no mass? Next thing u will come up with water isnt liquid. Photon has mass, e=m*c'2



+ Ssj3vegito96	Jun 8 2014, 04:34 PM Post #130
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 03:50 PM Ssj3vegito96 Jun 8 2014, 03:43 PM Both my brothers have had supernatural stuff happen to them. Sounded crazy to me at first since I wasn't there but I believe them Like i said, you need to be more specific. What happened to them? My brother always makes the sign of the cross when he gets in his car. Eventually it had become just a habit and he didn't really put much thought into it anymore. One day he realized it and asked something like "give me a reason why I'm doing this" can't remember exactly. A few moments later while he's driving there's water pouring out of his eyes, ears, mouth and nose and he can't stop it. His shirt was soaked and he wasn't crying. It was just water pouring out non stop for a while
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+ Ginyu	Jun 8 2014, 04:50 PM Post #131
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Cherry Jun 8 2014, 04:31 PM yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:20 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. 1) Most of what you said is made up photons don't even have mass so a neutrino cannot have less mass than a photon because a photon doesn't have any mass to begin with meaning it cannot pass the speed of light. 2) A black hole is a high mass in a packed volume giving it a powerful gravity which bends light around it making it pitch black. Matter is mostly empty space for all the human bodies leaving only electrons and the other subatomic particles, all seven billion human bodies would fit in the space of a sugar cube. How matter (atoms) behaves in a black hole is a mystery still. 3) Everything has an explanation if we don't know it is still there. photon has no mass? Next thing u will come up with water isnt liquid. Photon has mass, e=m*c'2 A photon is indeed massless. And if it does have mass then it's mass is negligible
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yokip	Jun 8 2014, 04:56 PM Post #132
Posts: 36 Group: Member Member #11,272 Joined: April 29, 2014	Cherry Jun 8 2014, 04:31 PM yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:20 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. 1) Most of what you said is made up photons don't even have mass so a neutrino cannot have less mass than a photon because a photon doesn't have any mass to begin with meaning it cannot pass the speed of light. 2) A black hole is a high mass in a packed volume giving it a powerful gravity which bends light around it making it pitch black. Matter is mostly empty space for all the human bodies leaving only electrons and the other subatomic particles, all seven billion human bodies would fit in the space of a sugar cube. How matter (atoms) behaves in a black hole is a mystery still. 3) Everything has an explanation if we don't know it is still there. photon has no mass? Next thing u will come up with water isnt liquid. Photon has mass, e=m*c'2 Light (Photons) has no mass. E = MC2 just means Some Mass (M) x The Speed that Light Travels (C) = the amount of Energy released.



+ Pointer	Jun 8 2014, 05:55 PM Post #133
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:56 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 04:31 PM yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:20 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. 1) Most of what you said is made up photons don't even have mass so a neutrino cannot have less mass than a photon because a photon doesn't have any mass to begin with meaning it cannot pass the speed of light. 2) A black hole is a high mass in a packed volume giving it a powerful gravity which bends light around it making it pitch black. Matter is mostly empty space for all the human bodies leaving only electrons and the other subatomic particles, all seven billion human bodies would fit in the space of a sugar cube. How matter (atoms) behaves in a black hole is a mystery still. 3) Everything has an explanation if we don't know it is still there. photon has no mass? Next thing u will come up with water isnt liquid. Photon has mass, e=m*c'2 Light (Photons) has no mass. E = MC2 just means Some Mass (M) x The Speed that Light Travels (C) = the amount of Energy released. What do you mean by some mass? Photon doesnt have resting mass it is true but it has momentum So whilst moving it has YOU ARE WELCOME



yokip	Jun 8 2014, 06:39 PM Post #134
Posts: 36 Group: Member Member #11,272 Joined: April 29, 2014	Cherry Jun 8 2014, 05:55 PM yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:56 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 04:31 PM yokip Jun 8 2014, 04:20 PM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 01:03 PM GinyuTokusentai Jun 8 2014, 10:54 AM Cherry Jun 8 2014, 10:17 AM It is also that weak as religion in terms of PROBLEM SOLVING, if not worse Sorry, maybe it's because English isn't my native language, but I have no idea what you were trying to say here... I think you're saying that in terms of problem solving, religion is just as weak as science? Which is simply not true. Religion creates theories based on nothing, and those theories always consist of something supernatural that in no way can be explained or has ever been witnessed before by anyone. Science creates theories that are based on objective observations and logical events. Science discovers new things everyday, therefore science is moving forward. Religion is not, they say one thing and they stick with that for 2000 years. That is of course, until science proves it wrong and then they blame it on how god is omnipotent and omniscient and you can't comprehend it. Quote: Observations, and logical events. Okay , here is a single particle : lets say it is subatomic, moreover muon type lets call it neutrino Okay everyone who has some connect with basic physics now that Energy=massVelocity^2 Now according to scientists the speed of neutrino is on par with the speed of light , lets also say we believe them They also said that the mass of this neutrino is less than a photon. Meanwhile the energy which had been detected by the IceCube Neutrino Observatory has already exceeded the expected standards This difference is inexplicable, they basically ruin the E=mCˇ2 equation Now and you call It logical and stuff. Science basics are just theories. /especially in the fields of Physics/ Basically We dont know a lot of things. What is black hole? A tear in the space? We know that appearently quantummechanics is the only "solid" method for us to work with in terms of "exploration in the subatomic fields" AGAIN I AM NOT SAYIN THAT RELIGION >SCIENCE, BUT IT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME WHENEVER YOU SAY ...OH SCIENCE IS BETTER THAN RELIGION BECAUSE IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND IT IS SOO LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE. I suggest you to take a trip in the very deeps of quantummechanics and theoretical physics , we will say what you will say after that. Our Leading theories are all based upon speculations .. "what is the photon is ....., what if the black hole is.....what if the strings are.....what if the mass is ......what if what if what if what if what if what if-..... I know that doesnt really do anything about the topic. People especially people who has no connection of "leading" science thinks that oh science is soo cool and stuff sooner or later we will become the next Asgardian race in the universe with nanotechnology and maybe we will even make dead alive... Maybe but today's science is nothing but a mess, theories on theories ...what if after what if ...the only science based thing which really moving forward is electronics and digital electronics....as long as it doesnt reach atomic sized transistors. 1) Most of what you said is made up photons don't even have mass so a neutrino cannot have less mass than a photon because a photon doesn't have any mass to begin with meaning it cannot pass the speed of light. 2) A black hole is a high mass in a packed volume giving it a powerful gravity which bends light around it making it pitch black. Matter is mostly empty space for all the human bodies leaving only electrons and the other subatomic particles, all seven billion human bodies would fit in the space of a sugar cube. How matter (atoms) behaves in a black hole is a mystery still. 3) Everything has an explanation if we don't know it is still there. photon has no mass? Next thing u will come up with water isnt liquid. Photon has mass, e=m*c'2 Light (Photons) has no mass. E = MC2 just means Some Mass (M) x The Speed that Light Travels (C) = the amount of Energy released. What do you mean by some mass? Photon doesnt have resting mass it is true but it has momentum So whilst moving it has YOU ARE WELCOME Rest mass is the familiar mass we know.



+ Pointer	Jun 8 2014, 07:32 PM Post #135
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Quote: Rest mass is the familiar mass we know. Please describe me a resting Photon. Edited by Pointer, Jun 8 2014, 07:33 PM.



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