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Jun 8 2014, 08:13 PM Post #136 |
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You obviously don't know your history. Catholics killed Protestants. Protestants killed Catholics. Both sides are guilty. Here are some random links for your education on the subject: http://etb-history-theology.blogspot.com/2012/03/thirty-years-war-and-protestants.html https://fatherjoe.wordpress.com/instructions/debates/the-inquisition-the-church/protestants-have-killed-many-more-catholics/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people#Religious Edited by Doggo Champion 2k17, Jun 8 2014, 09:27 PM.
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| yokip | Jun 8 2014, 08:43 PM Post #137 |
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The photon is a mass less particle. According to theory it has energy and momentum but no mass. Gravity causes mass movement but not for light. Any object with mass exerts a gravitational pull and in doing so curves the space around the object. Light travels around these space curves. In effect bent by gravity. If light had mass, the intensity or brightness of the light would have been reduced as much of the light would have been trapped by the Sun's gravity (light swallowed up by the Sun as appose to bending around the Sun). Edited by yokip, Jun 8 2014, 09:02 PM.
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 8 2014, 11:17 PM Post #138 |
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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String Theory and M Theory are basically the same thing. M Theory is a more detailed version of String Theory, while String Theory is a more broad version of it. String theory is a theory that is supported by quantum physics, all they need is the data through experimentation to prove its existence. Atomic Theory is simply the theory that atoms exist. Which has been proven repeatedly as true because you can see them with an atomic microscope, and can see the result of them by looking at spectrums emitted by objects like stars. Theories are accepted facts because all the evidence suggests it. Due to the expansion of the Universe, a "Big Bang" as a birth of the Universe is an accepted fact, because that's the evidence that suggests it. A "Theory" in science is the closest thing that a concept will ever be to being fact. It would only take on valid piece of evidence to prove these theories wrong, and it just hasn't happened. Theories aren't simply opinions made by people sitting around a book, like a conspiracy theory would be. They take evidence and applicable math and formulate these "opinions" based on that evidence. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jun 8 2014, 11:26 PM.
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| * Crashbreaka | Jun 8 2014, 11:24 PM Post #139 |
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Please remember the point of this thread guys, just talking about science in general seems a little off topic. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Jun 8 2014, 11:34 PM Post #140 |
 
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The thing is with the Big Bang, I don't really have much an issue with it, but what was before the Big Bang? Matter can't just be created from nothing. Something beyond science, maybe a god, could've started the Big Bang
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jun 8 2014, 11:35 PM.
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| + Ginyu | Jun 9 2014, 12:13 AM Post #141 |
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Then again, what was there before a god? Creationists always say 'every painting has a painter.' Then tell me: how come god exists? Why is there a god? Wha was there before god? Religion gives no better answers |
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| + Steve | Jun 9 2014, 01:09 AM Post #142 |
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That much is beyond the understanding of our tiny minds, God is just the simplest solution we can come up with because there just has to have been something, when really there doesn't. The beginning of everything or the realization that everything has just always been is something we can't compute. Religion got the wrong idea of guessing and enforcing selfish rules and so many people paid for it. That's what happens when little thought is put in to theory, unlike with scientific theory. Most religions are from a time of far lesser intelligence they should have no weight in the modern world except for study. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 9 2014, 01:41 AM Post #143 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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According to Stephen Hawking, matter can come from nothing if you understand quantum physics. I don't, so I'm not going to try to explain how this can happen. And in the context of space-time, there was no "before the Big Bang" because time as science understands it didn't exist before the birth of the universe. The actual passing of time is an illusion that humans have, and the actual passage of time is also influenced by your surroundings. Time passes faster in orbit than it does on Earth. The issue with the concept of God is that if something is a mystery, people automatically assume that God did it. God is a forever changing concept that is just beyond our understanding, but the thing that people fail to realize, is that as our knowledge grows, "God" gets smaller and smaller. |
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| * Crashbreaka | Jun 9 2014, 01:41 AM Post #144 |
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I'm not religious, but you're assuming deity's need to follow the rules of science. by definition of what a supernatural being is, a deity could simply have always existed. I don't believe it myself, but still. --- As for science, as far as I'm concerned it's a way of finding the most probably cause. If something is a scientific fact, it's because all the current evidence points to it, although that also allows for changing facts around when new evidence is presented. It's extremely dynamic, and that's why I generally believe it. Religion itself is pretty much based on faith from my limited understanding of it. Personally I've never seen the point in it, but most of my friends are religious and I'm not going to question them for it. For all I know, they've had experiences beyond mine. Or maybe we just think differently. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Jun 9 2014, 02:00 AM Post #145 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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I also don't believe in this concept, but I agree with your argument. A deity may not have to follow the rules, but even if the rules were broken, there would be traces left of things like that happening. For example, there's absolutely no evidence of a global flood in the geologic record. There's a theory from a Christian scientist (of whom I don't recall his name) who offers a possible explanation to this that the pre-flood ocean floor must have sank into the mantle prior to the flood, but the problem with this theory is that it requires a belief in god and miracles in the first place. And as I've stated, Science's job isn't to disprove anything, it's there to understand the universe. The thing about science is that it ALWAYS leaves the possibility for doors to be opened, and thinks in the context of understanding the universe, while religion does not. Religion blindly assumes certainties. |
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Jun 28 2014, 03:23 AM Post #146 |
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I think religion is awfully silly. There are no promises about anything, as far as we are concerned this is our one and only chance. Dead is dead and try to make this world a better place while you are here. |
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