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Was SSJ3 Gotenks really stronger than Super Boo?
Topic Started: May 19 2014, 02:22 PM (2,171 Views)
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Yes, Gotenks was stronger, but not strong to worry Buu whereas Gohan had Buu bitting his finger nails. Remember, Goku SSJ3 was stronger than Kid Buu, but could he defeat him; no
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Super Boo knew about the fusion time limit, right? I'm wondering now.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Yes he did, it was after Gotenks knocked him into the earth and Gotenks started yelling out about how he only had 5 minutes left and that it would take an hour for him to fuse again. Hence again where Boo begins to enact his Absorption Plan.
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May 19 2014, 08:17 PM
Yes he did, it was after Gotenks knocked him into the earth and Gotenks started yelling out about how he only had 5 minutes left and that it would take an hour for him to fuse again. Hence again where Boo begins to enact his Absorption Plan.
That's probably why he only considers Gohan as superior.
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SSJ3 Gotenks i believe is only at super buu's warm up level.At the max i believe they are 50% of super buu's power.
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Gotenks was just about to kill Buu before his SSj3 ran out. I doubt Buu would let it get to that point if he was stronger.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Who knows. The way I see, the idea of Boo or Gotenks holding back is only based upon hypothetical points. Truthfully I see no reason that Boo and Gotenks aren't using their full power against each other. It's never stated they are holding back and we can only make implied guesses. The only thing to note is that Gotenks is at some points being unfocused and getting hurt because of it.

What we do know is that, as far as the fight went, Gotenks had the advantage. This is pretty easy to see I think and we don't have to make any implications on that. It's a lot easier for me to describe Gotenks as stronger based upon the physical evidence we have than to try to make some claim that one or the other was holding back when we in fact only have very little implied information about it.

There's just no implication that I can personally see that says they're holding back but honestly you can say they're both holding back to a degree. Boo doesn't want to kill Gotenks because he needs him alive. Gotenks his holding back because as already said, he's an obnoxious dumb*** who doesn't know how to focus.

Gotenks beating up and holding the advantage over Super Boo is a undeniable fact. Either one holding back is merely subject to opinion and uncertain implications.
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Just really, why would Super buu take the risk to get himself killed? It almost happen. For me no matter what, Gotenks SSJ3> Super buu. I think he calls Gohan superior because the difference between him and Gohan was more notable then of Buu and Gotenks. Gotenks is a bit stronger, not by much, thats why I think that he didnt say Gotenks is superior to him. The difference is really slight.
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Self-claim of superiority: Buu only recognizes Gohan as surpassing his own power
Reason full strength not in use: Buu needs Gotenks for absorption

Self-claim of superiority: Gotenks states that he will becomes serious and destroy Buu (pre-fusion-expiry)
Reason full strength not in use: Gotenks is toying with Buu

...so I like to put them as equals.
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SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Boo

No doubt Gotenks had somewhat of an advantage over Boo and even looked like he was about to finish him off had his transformation not expired, but given Boo's comments about sensing Gohan and how he couldn't let a power greater than his own exist, I have Gotenks slightly stronger than Boo. There's also the debate about Gotenks holding back or not taking it seriously because of his showing off but that's something I don't feel like getting into.

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I see SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu as equals, since one thing suggests SSJ3 Gotenks was slightly stronger and another suggests Super Buu was slightly stronger.
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May 19 2014, 06:06 PM
I'm the odd one out saying Gotenks is far superior to Super Boo.
I agree that but Gotenks haven't experience and serious to fight correctly Buu. ^_^
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May 21 2014, 04:32 PM
I see SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu as equals, since one thing suggests SSJ3 Gotenks was slightly stronger and another suggests Super Buu was slightly stronger.
While that is true for the statements surrounding them, the feats point in Gotenks' advantage.
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Evil Boo doesn't really do much to SSj3 Gotenks in the manga, but Gotenks doesn't really seem to gain a big advantage until the end of their fight, and Gotenks' fusion wears off at that point.

I think Gotenks has a slight advantage, enough to make it clear when he gets serious.

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Evil/Super Boo - 1,800
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My impression was that Buu started off with an advantage, but over time it went to the boys. But it doesn't matter, Buu was going to win from the start because of the difficulty in actually "killing" him. It takes a foe that is way stronger then him to obliterate him. A foe that is close to his power wouldn't be able to do it. You can't just be stronger, you got to be way stronger.

Gotenks was doomed the moment he was no longer fighting Fat Buu. The only reason Super Buu waited to use his magic was because he knew Gohan was coming. Once Buu found out about the time limit on the boys he knew he had already "won" against them. Even if they were stronger.

I doubt the writers put this much thought into it, but if you want to go deep you could argue it was all an act. Super Buu just led Gotenks to think he was stronger - all apart of his set up when Gohan showed up. If the boys thought they were stronger they would re-fuse first chance they got to help Gohan. It would not be the first time a villain played to the ego of a Z fighter *cough* Cell and Vegeta.
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