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How strong is Broly?
Topic Started: May 19 2014, 02:35 AM (3,042 Views)
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May 30 2014, 05:01 AM
Hmm, Broly being potentially on Good Boo's level? No, I don't buy it.
I wouldn't put him on Buu's level. I'd put him above Super Perfect Cell's level (over all). Not Good Buu though.
I agree that he's above SPC, but only as LSSJ in M10. He's potentially just slightly stronger than Boo arc SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta.
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M8: RSSJ: Around FP Perfect Cell's level...mainly due to this:
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M8 Hypothetical SSJ: Stronger than his RSSJ self by...at the least, 2 times, due to the fact he is being restricted, and you wouldn't really want to restrain someone to above half of their own power, otherwise, it's not effective restraining.
M8 LSSJ: I put it, at the least, 2x multiplier, DBZ wise, since 2x for Gohan, put him WAY above Cell to a point it was probably above SSJ Goku, compared to 50% Frieza. Since it is a SSJ form, genuine one, 2x sounds nice, and rather fitting. So, I put LSSJ above Super Perfect Cell level.
M10 SSJ: It is either slightly below his LSSJ M8 self, or on par with it via Gohan implying this.
M10 LSSJ: 2x his M10 SSJ self.
So you're saying LSSJ M10 Broly is roughly on par with SSj3 Goku.... assuming SSJ2 is 2 times SSJ.
It's not impossible.
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May 30 2014, 04:53 AM
There's no way Broly makes it close to SSJ2 tier in M8.

At best, he's at FP Perfect Cell in that movie.
Now that, I think isn't exactly an impossibility. Seeing as how it would take Cell's strongest attack to destroy the solar system, and the fact Broly could have possibly been doing that casually (we know stars were destroyed, that's for certain). He could have been blowing up 10,000+ stars a day. It's possible that he could have been SSJ2 tier in M8. But we know that he certainly is, or at least close, in M10.
The whole galaxy busting thing was a dub line in FUNi's dub. In the original JPN version, all that was stated was that the galaxy was under attack showing Broly was destroying planets one by one versus destroying them all at once.

He is SSJ2 tier in M10 for sure but where exactly is up for debate. I only believe M10 LSSJ Broly to be midly above SPC and below other SSJ2's albeit M10 Gohan and Buu Saga Gohan.

In short, M8 Broly never makes it close to SSJ2 tier and M10 Broly never makes it close to SSJ3 tier.

Also, you should refrain from double posting. Just multi-quote instead.
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May 30 2014, 05:11 AM
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There's no way Broly makes it close to SSJ2 tier in M8.

At best, he's at FP Perfect Cell in that movie.
Now that, I think isn't exactly an impossibility. Seeing as how it would take Cell's strongest attack to destroy the solar system, and the fact Broly could have possibly been doing that casually (we know stars were destroyed, that's for certain). He could have been blowing up 10,000+ stars a day. It's possible that he could have been SSJ2 tier in M8. But we know that he certainly is, or at least close, in M10.
The whole galaxy busting thing was a dub line in FUNi's dub. In the original JPN version, all that was stated was that the galaxy was under attack showing Broly was destroying planets one by one versus destroying them all at once.

He is SSJ2 tier in M10 for sure but where exactly is up for debate. I only believe M10 LSSJ Broly to be midly above SPC and below other SSJ2's albeit M10 Gohan and Buu Saga Gohan.

In short, M8 Broly never makes it close to SSJ2 tier and M10 Broly never makes it close to SSJ3 tier.

Also, you should refrain from double posting. Just multi-quote instead.
That's what the message meant by double posting? Oh.
Anyways, I didn't imply Broly galaxy busted, in fact, I directly implied it was over time. A bust, is essentially a one shot of a thing. The "object" in question, being the galaxy that Broly destroyed. Plus, yeah, it did say that. However, a galaxy IS a collection of stars and planets. So he could have "attacked' the stars and planets via blowing them up.
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There's no way Broly makes it close to SSJ2 tier in M8.

At best, he's at FP Perfect Cell in that movie.
Now that, I think isn't exactly an impossibility. Seeing as how it would take Cell's strongest attack to destroy the solar system, and the fact Broly could have possibly been doing that casually (we know stars were destroyed, that's for certain). He could have been blowing up 10,000+ stars a day. It's possible that he could have been SSJ2 tier in M8. But we know that he certainly is, or at least close, in M10.
The whole galaxy busting thing was a dub line in FUNi's dub. In the original JPN version, all that was stated was that the galaxy was under attack showing Broly was destroying planets one by one versus destroying them all at once.

He is SSJ2 tier in M10 for sure but where exactly is up for debate. I only believe M10 LSSJ Broly to be midly above SPC and below other SSJ2's albeit M10 Gohan and Buu Saga Gohan.

In short, M8 Broly never makes it close to SSJ2 tier and M10 Broly never makes it close to SSJ3 tier.

Also, you should refrain from double posting. Just multi-quote instead.
That's what the message meant by double posting? Oh.
Anyways, I didn't imply Broly galaxy busted, in fact, I directly implied it was over time. A bust, is essentially a one shot of a thing. The "object" in question, being the galaxy that Broly destroyed. Plus, yeah, it did say that. However, a galaxy IS a collection of stars and planets. So he could have "attacked' the stars and planets via blowing them up.
That's kind of my point lol.

Broly was destroying planets showing that he's a planet buster and just that. Frieza was also capable of doing the same thing.
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There's no way Broly makes it close to SSJ2 tier in M8.

At best, he's at FP Perfect Cell in that movie.
Now that, I think isn't exactly an impossibility. Seeing as how it would take Cell's strongest attack to destroy the solar system, and the fact Broly could have possibly been doing that casually (we know stars were destroyed, that's for certain). He could have been blowing up 10,000+ stars a day. It's possible that he could have been SSJ2 tier in M8. But we know that he certainly is, or at least close, in M10.
The whole galaxy busting thing was a dub line in FUNi's dub. In the original JPN version, all that was stated was that the galaxy was under attack showing Broly was destroying planets one by one versus destroying them all at once.

He is SSJ2 tier in M10 for sure but where exactly is up for debate. I only believe M10 LSSJ Broly to be midly above SPC and below other SSJ2's albeit M10 Gohan and Buu Saga Gohan.

In short, M8 Broly never makes it close to SSJ2 tier and M10 Broly never makes it close to SSJ3 tier.

Also, you should refrain from double posting. Just multi-quote instead.
That's what the message meant by double posting? Oh.
Anyways, I didn't imply Broly galaxy busted, in fact, I directly implied it was over time. A bust, is essentially a one shot of a thing. The "object" in question, being the galaxy that Broly destroyed. Plus, yeah, it did say that. However, a galaxy IS a collection of stars and planets. So he could have "attacked' the stars and planets via blowing them up.
That's kind of my point lol.

Broly was destroying planets showing that he's a planet buster and just that. Frieza was also capable of doing the same thing.
And JUST a planet buster? The opening of M8 seems to speak more than just planet buster.
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May 19 2014, 02:35 AM
-m8: Ssj, Lssj
-m10: ssj, Lssj
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m8 ssj between assj vegeta and mssj goku or equal to mssj goku at max

lssj =perfectly equal to Perfect Cell full power thus about two times weaker than ssj2 gohan/CG/

m10 ssj : above buu arc ssj goku

Lssj = above just a little /buu arc ssj2 goku/

m11 weaker than its m8 ssj

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M8: RSSJ: Around FP Perfect Cell's level...mainly due to this:
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M8 Hypothetical SSJ: Stronger than his RSSJ self by...at the least, 2 times, due to the fact he is being restricted, and you wouldn't really want to restrain someone to above half of their own power, otherwise, it's not effective restraining.
M8 LSSJ: I put it, at the least, 2x multiplier, DBZ wise, since 2x for Gohan, put him WAY above Cell to a point it was probably above SSJ Goku, compared to 50% Frieza. Since it is a SSJ form, genuine one, 2x sounds nice, and rather fitting. So, I put LSSJ above Super Perfect Cell level.
M10 SSJ: It is either slightly below his LSSJ M8 self, or on par with it via Gohan implying this.
M10 LSSJ: 2x his M10 SSJ self.
So you're saying LSSJ M10 Broly is roughly on par with SSj3 Goku.... assuming SSJ2 is 2 times SSJ.
It's not impossible.
Yeah it kinda is based on how he was defeated.
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And JUST a planet buster? The opening of M8 seems to speak more than just planet buster.

The opening for movie 8 proves nothing since, you know, Broly didn't destroy the South Galaxy.
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Movie 8 Broli is Cell Games Goku level

M10 Broli is Boo Arc SSjin 2 Goku level
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May 30 2014, 04:00 PM
Movie 8 Broli is Cell Games Goku level

M10 Broli is Boo Arc SSjin 2 Goku level
Can I ask you why you have M8 Broly at MSSJ Goku level?

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And JUST a planet buster? The opening of M8 seems to speak more than just planet buster.


We don't know that. The way the statement was worded in the JPN version made it sound like he was destroying planets one by one hence the narrator saying "The South Galaxy is under attack!" VS the FUNi dub where the narrator says " The South Galaxy has been shattered!".

And like Prince said, the South Galaxy wasn't completely destroyed in the movie.
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May 30 2014, 02:19 PM
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M8: RSSJ: Around FP Perfect Cell's level...mainly due to this:
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M8 Hypothetical SSJ: Stronger than his RSSJ self by...at the least, 2 times, due to the fact he is being restricted, and you wouldn't really want to restrain someone to above half of their own power, otherwise, it's not effective restraining.
M8 LSSJ: I put it, at the least, 2x multiplier, DBZ wise, since 2x for Gohan, put him WAY above Cell to a point it was probably above SSJ Goku, compared to 50% Frieza. Since it is a SSJ form, genuine one, 2x sounds nice, and rather fitting. So, I put LSSJ above Super Perfect Cell level.
M10 SSJ: It is either slightly below his LSSJ M8 self, or on par with it via Gohan implying this.
M10 LSSJ: 2x his M10 SSJ self.
So you're saying LSSJ M10 Broly is roughly on par with SSj3 Goku.... assuming SSJ2 is 2 times SSJ.
It's not impossible.
Yeah it kinda is based on how he was defeated.
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And JUST a planet buster? The opening of M8 seems to speak more than just planet buster.

The opening for movie 8 proves nothing since, you know, Broly didn't destroy the South Galaxy.
What do you mean he didn't destroy the South Galaxy? That's the reason M8 took place. And as we know...
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Watch the sub please he was destroying planets one by one meaning every day he destroyed one planet on topic
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Broly RSSJ: in between Vegeta ASSJ and Trunks USSJ
Broly SSJ: trunks USSJ
Broly LSSJ in between perfect cell ad SSJ2 gohan

Movie ten:
SSJ equal to LssJ broly in M8
LSSJ barley above majin vegeta

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Broly equal to cell at goku

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Sigh.... people still believe he destroyed the South Galaxy because of the opening? Sorry bud, but we see Goku travel to a planet in the South Galaxy, and there are plenty of stars lighting up the sky. He didn't destroy sh**. He just ravaged a number of planets. Oh, and New planet Vegeta is in the South Galaxy.
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May 31 2014, 02:44 PM
Sigh.... people still believe he destroyed the South Galaxy because of the opening? Sorry bud, but we see Goku travel to a planet in the South Galaxy, and there are plenty of stars lighting up the sky. He didn't destroy sh**. He just ravaged a number of planets. Oh, and New planet Vegeta is in the South Galaxy.
I feel like this is somewhat condescending. It's easy to believe something when it's uttered in the movie, even if it is the dub. The dub is what most people in the western world watch afterall.
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But this is the year 2014, no one should go off the original dub at this point. Secondly, we see Goku travel to a planet within the South Galaxy. It should be apparent at that point that he did not destroy it.
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