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Religion in the Dragon Ball World
Topic Started: May 18 2014, 08:28 PM (2,006 Views)
+ Yusuke
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Has their been any sorta of religion shown in the Dragon Ball World? Or are all the humans on Earth atheists?
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I'm not gonna assume anything, but the fact that God exists in the DB World makes me think that people believe in him. Or at least AT intended it that way.
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Krillin was a monk, I think. I don't know whether that has anything to do with religion though.
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I think Buddhism is hinted somewhere
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Namu is a Buddhist, or at least something like that as intended - as well as his area. Other parts of the Dragon World don't have religion, or certain parts do. Like Namu and Korin's area have Buddhism. It may just be Namu's village.
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Buddhism is one of the few religions in the world that is not a theistic religion. Because of this, a lot of people actually have a hard time accepting that it is a religion, and not simply a choice of living.
Buddhism itself is not classified by a theistic ideal because you can have Buddhists who are atheists, or Buddhists who are polytheists, or monotheists, but the point of Buddhism is to understand suffering through the act of suffering, but there's nothing in this religion that says that you are doing it to please a God or Gods.

However, In DB in particular, it seems that it's based mostly in atheism, or the beliefs of pre-Feudal Japan, before Christianity had it's influence. There are Christian influences in DB such as "Mr. Satan" and Videl (anagram of Devil), and Dabura (suggested to be Diablo, which is "Devil" in Spanish).

In addition to this, you later have Beezelbub in Sandland, Dabura's son.
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I could've swore I read somewhere that toriyama said he implemented pieces of multiple religions in dbz. There are gods so I'm sure there is a religion in dbz
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I think you did. (;
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May 18 2014, 11:54 PM
I could've swore I read somewhere that toriyama said he implemented pieces of multiple religions in dbz. There are gods so I'm sure there is a religion in dbz
Someone can probably dig one of them up, but he mentioned in several interviews that it's a traditional Chinese mythology and worldview, as he had just done a Western one in Dr. Slump when DBZ started, and wanted a change of pace. If you read The Journey to the West (which Dragon Ball's Pilaf Saga was loosely based on, and where Goku gets his name and surname from), it all makes sense.

Basically, the mythology in Asian countries was influenced by three competing doctrines: Confucianism, Buddhism, and Taoism. All of these were mixed together in a really fuzzy way, so that you can't claim the traditional Chinese mythology/culture belongs to any one of them, and it was possible to be a Taoist and a Confucian at the same time, for instance. Their deities and heaven all exist in the same plane (so Heaven is a physical place you can go to). It's hard to explain, but non-Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) belong to a different class of religion/philosophy (or if you really want to dig into it, Platonic metaphysics), where everything is divided between the physical and the spiritual. This system is called Dualism, the one we commonly think of (and which a lot of Asian cultures have a hard time understanding). Basically, there is another plane of existence where God, angels, heaven, etc. exist, that is immaterial. Humans exist in the material world, on the other side of the dividing line. So in a traditional Chinese mythology, you have Buddhist, Taoist, and traditional deities all co-mingling in a physical Heaven that exists in the physical world, and you can visit. This lack of division between form and matter, or spiritual and physical, is alien to cultures that adhere to Abrahamic religions.

I should point out that Christians were actually in western and central China from the 600's on, though, but they were native Chinese who belonged to the Eastern/Byzantine tradition, always in smaller numbers, and never really made a dent in Asian countries outside of China. Islam also arrived much later when Muslim armies invaded, and briefly ruled China under the Tatars, which inadvertently allowed Marco Polo and Jesuit missionaries entry as well. Still, the journey to the West that DB is based on doesn't incorporate any of that, and reflects an older view of Chinese culture where it was primarily Taoists and Buddhists duking it out for influence. In fact, if you read it, Sun Wu Kung who Goku is based on is a Buddhist and ends up in several fights with Taoists, having to prove which one has the true religion.
Edited by Ben, May 19 2014, 01:16 AM.
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Someone can probably dig one of them up, but he mentioned in several interviews that it's a traditional Chinese mythology and worldview, as he had just done a Western one in Dr. Slump when DBZ started, and wanted a change of pace. If you read The Journey to the West (which Dragon Ball's Pilaf Saga was loosely based on, and where Goku gets his name and surname from), it all makes sense.

Basically, the mythology in Asian countries was influenced by three competing doctrines: Confucianism, Buddhism, and Taoism. All of these were mixed together in a really fuzzy way, so that you can't claim the traditional Chinese mythology/culture belongs to any one of them, and it was possible to be a Taoist and a Confucian at the same time, for instance. Their deities and heaven all exist in the same plane (so Heaven is a physical place you can go to). It's hard to explain, but non-Abrahamic religions (that aren't Christianity, Judaism, Islam) belong to a different class of religion/philosophy (or if you really want to dig into it, Platonic metaphysics), where everything is divided between the physical and the spiritual. This system is called Dualism, the one we commonly think of (and which a lot of Asian cultures have a hard time understanding). Basically, there is another plane of existence where God, angels, heaven, etc. exist, that is immaterial. Humans exist in the material world, on the other side of the dividing line. So in a traditional Chinese mythology, you have Buddhist, Taoist, and traditional deities all co-mingling in a physical Heaven that exists in the physical world, and you can visit. This lack of division between form and matter, or spiritual and physical, is alien to cultures that adhere to Abrahamic religions.

I should point out that Christians were actually in western and central China from the 600's on, though, but they were native Chinese who belonged to the Eastern/Byzantine tradition, always in smaller numbers, and never really made a dent in Asian countries outside of China. Islam also arrived much later when Muslim armies invaded, and briefly ruled China under the Tatars, which inadvertently allowed Marco Polo and Jesuit missionaries entry as well. Still, The Journey to the West that DB is based on doesn't incorporate any of that, and reflects an older view of Chinese culture where it was primarily Taoists and Buddhists duking it out for influence. In fact, if you read it, Sun Wu Kung who Goku is based on is a Buddhist and ends up in several fights with Taoists, having to prove which one has the true religion.
Edited by Ben, May 19 2014, 01:21 AM.
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