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Social perceptions about sexual pleasure and penis characteristics; (Topic Title Changed)
Topic Started: May 17 2014, 11:12 PM (4,420 Views)
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Can anyone homosexual comment on how penis size affects attraction to other males?
I wonder if it matters as much to other men, setting aside the bigger = more dominant thing.

Interesting. I'm having this conversation with one of my gay guy friends right now. He just recently started dating a guy with an uncircumcised penis, and its apparently "fascinating to him," to quote his own words. He also said that neither penis size nor circumcision have any bearing on who he finds attractive. When I asked him to explain, he said "I'm a top, so it doesn't matter."

I wonder how bottoms feel. My friend claims that even if he was a bottom, he wouldn't choose a partner based on that criteria, so I don't know. :p
I'd imagine that a bottom wouldn't overly enjoy a large penis. The anus is meant to push stuff out, and doesn't gladly accept objects (of any kind) being shoved in.
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^ you'd be surprised. A lot of gay people definitely have the 'bigger is better' mindset. Hence the term 'size queen'

But for many others though it doesn't really matter too much. Aesthetically it probably does though.
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May 25 2014, 12:58 PM
^ you'd be surprised. A lot of gay people definitely have the 'bigger is better' mindset. Hence the term 'size queen'

But for many others though it doesn't really matter too much. Aesthetically it probably does though.
Size queen, that is freaking hilarious :rofl:


I wonder what the difference is.
Perhaps men can better understand how it feels to be ridiculed for having a "small" one? So can level with each other and not really care so it doesn't matter.

Where immature women such as that are basically told by society that a bigger one is all that suits their needs.
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Eh, from my personal experience men are far more likely to be judgemental about it then woman haha. Possibly because of it being seen by men as a symbol of masculinity and therefore something important and to worry about.

Women on the whole seem to be far more realistic about the whole thing.

Of course I am generalising before someone comes in with a "not all [gender]" thing.
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Well, considering the only thing I have to go off of is personal opinion here, that's all I'm really going to use.

I think society needs to get it's head out of it's a**, first of all, I've never had a problem with my size, I doubt it's the biggest and I couldn't care less, it's mine and if people have a problem with that it's their problem. I see no reason to get all upset over such measurements, guys can brag all about how big they are and belittle others to feel dominant but no size is going to protect them if they decide to go from slightly aggressive banter to actual aggression :lol:

I personally am straight, and for a lot of my teenage years I couldn't help but wonder if it actually mattered, I'd worry, sure, but I was probably fortunate that the first person to encounter it was my girlfriend at the time, first impressions mean a lot in that regard too, I'd imagine it's the same for any other person.

The main problem, to me, seems to be people's perception, as has been mentioned many times in this topic already. Size isn't going to change much if you don't know what you're doing and put about as much effort in as you do in getting dressed for school on a Monday morning. From conversations I've had many guys seem to think they're masters just by ramming it in, and if dare I ask if that was it, most of the time they'll say yes.

In fact, I think it reflects modern sexual activity in general, as guys seem to just go in fast for their own enjoyment, at least in my age group (19-23) and not really do much for the women, one quote I can't help but always laugh at, because, being from the South of Britain, we do have some great lines: "Just a quick blowie and a quick 10 minutes and she was howling."
I mainly laugh because chances are she was "howling" in boredom.

My views on this probably come from the fact that I was raised almost entirely by women, I had no dad around to give me "the talk" so I heard all about the women's side and how they would explain it best and had to figure the other side out myself. I do think sometimes my mother was a bit too nervous about that and told me more than she had to, but regardless, it makes more sense to me this way:
It's not going to matter how much heat you're packing when you can't really achieve anything with it, you'd get much better results being considerate and taking your time, as well as doing different things.

That just seems sensible to me, if you can't take it seriously it should be a work ethic, time + effort + perseverance = bigger success ratings.

I have to ask, do most guy's just finish their first round and give up? That seems to be what I gather, at least, in which case it's no wonder this topic even needed to be started.
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Personally, I don't get the whole bragging thing or saying bigger is better... I could care less about that and when I hear it I want to tell them to shut up. I'm not cocky (Really no pun intended) about it, but I'm not depressed about my size either. My first time was with someone who'd been around the block so to speak and with a high sex drive, but didn't know I was a virgin and was so shocked when I told her I was too... and that's good enough for me.
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I don't think penis size should matter at all to guys. Like...I won't judge a friend of mine if I find out he has a small penis. That's just silly.
However, I will tell you that girls do care. It's not the only thing they look for, mind you. Not at all. But I had some lengthy convos between me and my ex. I'm not huge but she told me a few times she was glad about my size, which at the time I wasn't entirely sure if girls really did care for it.
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I think the more experienced they are the less they care because they know both a 5 and an 8 inch will do the job just fine, even a 4,

Society just fills their head with crap, as does porn. I don't have a problem with porns existence but if you see it before having any sexual experiences then as a dude it gives you unrealistic expectations of how big you need to be for the girl to even enjoy it. Then as a woman the same for being able to enjoy it.
Even though obviously female pornstars are...experienced in the downstairs area, where an 8 inch or bigger would just hurt most girls, it seems easy in porn so that must be the kind of size that's necessary right?

In porn, movies and everything else sex scenes happen instantaneously and whatever the guy has got fits in there easily.
I'm sure everyone who's done it with an inexperienced female knows that's not how it goes down you can't just shove an arm in there instantly it can take minutes to be ready.
So huge size only hurts in that instance.


Like Arkadom said it's the effort you put in that matters if you have a huge dong but only give the girl 10 minutes of action you're not some love God, 30 minutes to an hour like at least. If a girl says she's satisfied with 10 minutes she was being nice, also size doesn't make them climax faster like most would believe.


Now that I think about it maybe that's why a lot of girls cheat on partners? If a guy only bothers to make 10 minutes of effort then they're just going to be left needing and feel like he doesn't give a damn(which sure seems to be true most of the time)
Not that I agree cheating is the right thing to do but it is on that level very understandable just like how if someone doesn't suit your emotional needs you'd leave them.
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If a girl says she's satisfied with 10 minutes she was being nice

Or she was glad to have the torture finally end.

Don't get me wrong, men are lazy and selfish as s*** in bed, but for some reason men have it in their heads that penetration is the best part of sex for women when in reality most women would much rather have other favors done for them. It's a belief that is, unfortunately, totally inaccurate for the most part.

Like someone else in this thread already said, guys rush into penetration like it's some holy thing and skip over all the good stuff. That's why most women don't ever come during sex unless she's trained her man to not think this way.
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Exactly.

If penetration was all that mattered how on earth would lesbians get a kick out of sex? :p there would be no point in being with another women if a dildo or penis was what's necessary for enjoyment.

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Jun 3 2014, 08:05 AM
If a girl says she's satisfied with 10 minutes she was being nice,
have you ever actually had sex for more than ten minutes? it takes a lot out of you physically, like in the shape im in now I honestly don't think I could last ten minutes having sex without being tired and wanting to just get a blowjob and quit.

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Girls around my age (19/20/21) definitely care about d*** size. In my own personal experience, I've heard girls talking about boyfriends d*** size and I've had plenty of girls mention it to me that they were glad with my size and that it "wasn't tiny."

I think girls care about it because they see that guys care about it so much. I don't think that it doesn't matter, but it's not as big of a deal as it is made out to be. Also having a big d*** does not make you good in bed; most guys think this way, but those guys usually haven't had a lot of experience. Either that or the girls never say anything.
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have you ever actually had sex for more than ten minutes? it takes a lot out of you physically, like in the shape im in now I honestly don't think I could last ten minutes having sex without being tired and wanting to just get a blowjob and quit.

Not to toot my own horn or anything but I make sure my girlfriend gets at the very least between 40 minutes to hour, that's a "quick" one.

And my belly makes me look pregnant so not in shape myself :p


I think guys with "tiny" ones possibly don't try as hard since they get put down a lot or maybe girls will get with one guy who has a big one and gives them the full service not 10 minutes, so they have that size as the standard when really it's the length and variety that does it. Unless you're talking as long as a giraffe's neck or something there's nothing wrong with size but it's not necessary.
Perhaps average or small guys should just be encouraged to put some effort in to it and show women any reasonable size is good under the right conditions.


It's probably most important that girls do say what they need, I hear that most people don't talk during sex at all.
Seems important to communicate, give feedback and get to know each others "buttons" guesswork can be fun too but most guys probably turn to laziness if the girl just sort of lays there like a mannequin not saying if it's good or bad, if they don't seem in to it why should you try hard? That kind of mentality must set in.
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This is the same as with any other characteristic.
People claim it can't get good enough, but truth is, there's always a limit.
I do think women would be more attracted to a 6 inch penis than a 3 inch one. However, when you reach 13 inches, it just gets weird.
Same goes for length. Most women like tall men, but women don't want a freakishly long man over 7 feet.
People also always want intelligent men, but you don't want a 'Rainman' like guy who knows everything but lack social skill.

People always just seem to want 'above average' and that above average quickly seems to escalate to bigger and better.
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Not to toot my own horn or anything but I make sure my girlfriend gets at the very least between 40 minutes to hour, that's a "quick" one.

Seems like a little overkill to me if you're just talking straight-up penetration. I would hate that.

If you're talking sex in general, then yes, my girlfriend and I can mess around for an hour or so. Sometimes more. But we usually don't. :p

And I don't claim to know everything, but wouldn't some girls prefer a larger size? Using fingers can be much more pleasurable than a penis - even more so if said penis is tiny.

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Seems important to communicate, give feedback and get to know each others "buttons" guesswork can be fun too but most guys probably turn to laziness if the girl just sort of lays there like a mannequin not saying if it's good or bad, if they don't seem in to it why should you try hard? That kind of mentality must set in.

Men also have to realize that their girlfriend isn't a porn star, and most men will have unrealistic expectations when it comes to sex due to porn. I've had guys act like I need to be moaning and screaming like a crazy person the whole time. Haha. No. Maybe when it's really good, yeah. And penetration definitely doesn't do that for me or a lot of other girls.
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