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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 17 2014, 11:12 PM Post #1 |
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EDIT: The topic title has been changed to be more about sex in general. This is kind of a risque topic, but what the hell, right? Not really worthy of "deep discussion", but due to the potentially mature content of this topic, I decided to put it here. This topic will talk mostly about social perceptions about size, and circumcision vs non-circumcision. ******This topic is not a free-for-all evaluation of male posters about your own size or characteristics...******* ...so keep it in your pants... literally. ------- I can't help but notice that men and women tend to have a completely different view on penis size and other characteristics. I just watched a video on YouTube with a male and female host, in which they talked about a man who had gotten pulled aside by TSA agents because they thought he was carrying a weapon. Come to find out, it was his penis. The male host on this show was all for it, making presumptions about how women would flock to this guy because of his incredible size (13.5 inches erect), while the female host tried several times to explain that this simply wasn't the case, and that women aren't turned on by guys who are freakishly huge. I've experienced this mind-set with most men before when discussing it. They seem to believe "the bigger, the better", while women themselves (usually) are on the complete opposite end of the fence about large size. In addition to this, what do you think about circumcized vs not circumcized. Most women in the US who are sexually active have never even seen an uncircumcised penis before, and don't know if there's a difference in sensation during intercourse. I can say that I am one of the more rare women in the US who actually has "had experience" with both, and will say that I do have a preference. What are your views on desirableness or attractiveness based on size and circumcision/un-circumcision? Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Jun 3 2014, 08:31 PM.
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| EMIYA | May 17 2014, 11:22 PM Post #2 |
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As a heterosexual male obviously my take on such a thing is point but I can at least speak on behalf as relationship therapist. I think what we can see is that size is perhaps an idea of dominance. A large penis may indicate to some that this is a sign of "manliness" and the social construct that we give it. You hear all these jokes of tiny balls or small penis' and we've obviously built up this social structure at least here in the west where we view these things as the personification of male dominance. I think it honestly has less to do with sex and more of a social nomination. We've heard the statement, size matters. And in our social status, it apparently does. When we think "big" we think "strong" they're terms that go hand to hand. When we think small, we think "weak" because that's the kind of social construct that has been put into our society. One thing for us to remember is that during sex, it was often believed that the one penetrating was the one who was dominant and stronger and the one who was being penetrated was the weaker one who submissive. You can understand the issues this has with gender equality right now. It's something that would obviously compel males to believe in such a thing. Society has incorrectly and redundantly put males in a state of so called dominance and anything that would increase that dominance is probably well thought of by male peers. Which again really hurts the point of gender equality. Personally whether I was female or Homosexual, in terms of pure atheistic I don't find a penis that's longer than my foot long ruler to be pleasing to look at. |
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| + Pelador | May 17 2014, 11:25 PM Post #3 |
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I've heard that a lot of Americans are circumcised. No idea why. It provides no health benefits at all. Except sometimes one might not develop a rare condition where the foreskin creates problems with urinating. But this doesn't happen often. Certainly not enough to warrant circumcising every baby. Anyway, I'm well aware that women are often uncomfortable with an overly large penis. Sometimes bigger is better but in this case it's nothing to brag about and can actually be counter productive. Besides, at the end of the day it's how you use it. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 17 2014, 11:36 PM Post #4 |
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Apparently there's studies that suggest that men who aren't circumcised are more prone to urinary tract infections and both contracting and spreading STDs. For the record, being a woman, I find freakishly huge guys to be a huge turn off, and I find that "uncut" actually feels better because the foreskin provides a level of cushioning during "movements". Uncut guys also tend to be a bit more gentle with their movements because of potential injury to their foreskin, so it's more gentle on a woman's parts than a "cut" guy. @ Brofist, I agree with your perception about the size being more of a measurement of "manliness" between guys, but this seems to go erroneously with a false assumption that a bigger penis will get you laid more often. Being a woman, I can say that this just isn't true. Even a smaller than average penis really doesn't make a woman bat an eye when it comes to sex. |
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| EMIYA | May 17 2014, 11:55 PM Post #5 |
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I would probably say that penis size and domination came before the prospect of sex. Let us remember that in the past, it wasn't just heterosexual sex, there was bisexualism and homosexuality all very common practices. But that point of domination was still there. This could debatably be what has now changed the perception of size. In the past, sex wasn't meant to be pleasant, it was just something you did. Your penis size may have been proportionate to how much "dominance" you had in your status whether with women or other men. Come now to our time and sex now has the point of pleasantry because we have this false belief now. We want to continue our point of dominance and then mistakenly add in that it must be more comfortable for women as well. Of course I think a lot of educated males fail to come to the realization that sex, gratification and climaxing is a lot difference for them than it is for females. If I can remember my statistics it was like only 1 in 3 woman actually climax just from the penetration and sexual intercourse alone. Men I believe just have this false notion because they base the sexual experiences upon what they have known for themselves It's similar to masturbation, most people who think its wrong don't realize the health advantages that it actually holds. They hold this social stigma to it. Even myself, I was under the impression that masturbation must have been this unhealthy issue and I've got enough respect for myself and knowledge to say that yes I have masturbated. And before I thought I was doing some horrible wrong thing that I couldn't help, like I was taking cocaine or something. And then I got educated on the whole matter in my Freshmen year of college and being educated on this matter helped greatly. It changed my incorrect perception and now a days I have a far more confidence in my own sexuality than I did before. It's a clear case of knowledge being needed. I never got this kind of information in high school so I was practically left in the dark on the whole idea. Taking relationship and family based classes in a college setting which omits the "censorship" we get in High School definitely helped me get a better understanding as I've said on both my own sexual nature and the sexual nature of others in general as well. |
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| Event Horizon | May 18 2014, 12:02 AM Post #6 |
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What most guys, who brag about their size fail to realize is that most guys actually have around the same penis size. Guys who are 'small' while soft, their penis usually grows upwards to 130% bigger when erect. While the average guys who are 'big' while soft, only grows around 20-30% bigger. Dr. Christian Jessen did a small "comparison test". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdJtox4a54A But yeah, the "bigger, the better or stronger you are" part, I've seen a lot of guys who pretty much live by that saying. I don't know how many times I've seen two or more guys fight/argue in school, and then one of them suddenly says "stfu, take your small penis, mine's 12 inches, gtfo" or something similar. It's like the one with the bigger is superior to the rest <-- which I, personally find stupid. I've heard most Americans are circumcised because they think it looks better and it's easier to clean, although that's only what I've heard. And I believe more and more people are actually getting circumcised, because tight foreskin is a very common penis problem, even after puberty. |
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May 18 2014, 04:11 AM Post #7 |
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To bring something new to the discussion, I don't think it's just guys who care about penis size. I talk about sex a lot with my friends, and a few of them have complained about their boyfriend's penis being "too small" or "weirdly shaped." An old friend of mine seemed to have the "bigger means better" mindset as well and was turned off by guys with small penises. As far as the circumcision thing goes, none of the people I know have ever seen an uncircumcised penis and are disgusted by the idea. I don't know if that's because I live in good 'ol Christian conservative Oklahoma or just the US in general, but circumcision is pretty taboo here. I'm willing to bet that most of the girls I know wouldn't date a man with an uncircumcised penis, which is pretty sad. I'll quote a friend of mine who once said (while talking bad about a guy): "His penis is small... and it's uncircumcised. Ew." I guess I can't really say much personally since I think penises are disgusting no matter what they look like, but yeah. There are also plenty of misconceptions and variations as far as the vagina goes, too. |
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| + Pelador | May 18 2014, 04:27 AM Post #8 |
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That's such an odd thing. I think circumcised penises are disgusting. To look at anyway. |
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| + Steve | May 18 2014, 11:51 AM Post #9 |
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They seem like they'd be annoying for catching on zips and stuff  I think most people fail to realize that the vagina is only 3-4 inches deep, a penis need only be that big to do the job. If a woman actually needs a bigger than 5 inch one to enjoy sex well then that's her problem for not being normal down there or just thinking that it's better. Nothing wrong with a personal preference for bigger ones but nobody actually needs them unless they're dealing with 1 inch penises, bigger is only better when they're below average. It definitely made me feel a lot less "manly" to find out that my girlfriends first and only other partner was much bigger than me down there, however it is how you use it that matters satisfying sex is nothing to do with how big anything is so society really does need to get over the whole size issue. Someone with 5 inches who can go for 2 hours is clearly superior to someone with 8 who can manage 20 minutes, if that. I think for the perceptions to change women need to be more open about how it's the sex not the penis that makes the difference, if a man with a big one is just in and out so to speak he's worthless compared to an average sized dude who does the whole show, foreplay and such. Can anyone homosexual comment on how penis size affects attraction to other males? I wonder if it matters as much to other men, setting aside the bigger = more dominant thing. I can see men having a bit more of an understanding when they're in that kind of relationship but is size any kind of social prerequisite among the homosexual community? (not sure if this is a strange thing to ask just curious if it matters on that side of the coin) |
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| + Pelador | May 18 2014, 12:04 PM Post #10 |
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Three to four inches deep? That can't be right surely? |
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| + Steve | May 18 2014, 01:37 PM Post #11 |
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Well deeper obviously but as to where the penis actually goes that's how big it is, forgot to add that it just stretches to accommodate larger sizes So the average size of 5 inches is pretty much perfect, else there be too much stretching and thus damage. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 18 2014, 11:18 PM Post #12 |
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I will agree with you, but from my experience, we chicks don't sit around the coffee table having a conversation that focuses primarily on "preferred size". From my experience, usually it's mentioned in passing conversation, but it's not like we poke fun at it if it's too small. But you can't blame chicks for being curious about this stuff. They're literally getting a cumbersome organ shoved inside their bodies. They're obviously going to be curious about how big that organ is, and it's simply from a "self-preservation" perspective. As for a big one, seeing a guy who says that he's "huge" or is rumored to be "huge" is more about curiosity than actually wanting to do stuff with him. I'd imagine it would be the same with a guy and a chick with massive sized boobs. The size isn't always a turn-on, but it does peak your interest just to see something that big. In addition to this, I haven't actually experienced chicks talking openly about their guy's stuff to other chicks, unless they are talking to another girl who has been with the same guy or its simply mentioned. The only time that I've ever experienced chicks poking fun at a guys size is when the guy's an a** and cheated on them, or screwed them over or something. But at that point, you can't really say that he doesn't deserve getting his ego knocked down a bit. Not only that, but usually a guy who brags about his size is received (by chicks) to be a liar who is seeking attention. Chicks actually know what the average size is because most of us have actually been with a few guys or so, so it's not really that smart to brag and tell her it's probably the "biggest one she's ever seen". If you really want to know a guy's size before you sleep with him, I seem to find that the only truth you'll get is from the other chicks that he's been with. However, size to me is really not an issue, unless it's freakishly huge. Also to add to the current topic, a woman's vagina actually lengthens and relaxes she gets aroused. When she's not aroused, it's only about 3 or 4 inches deep; but when she is, it's more like 5. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 18 2014, 11:23 PM.
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| tOMMY pICKLES | May 19 2014, 01:32 AM Post #13 |
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my penis sucks, im trading it in for a second butt |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 19 2014, 02:33 AM Post #14 |
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All I could think about was this when I saw your post. Women definitely do have fake orgasms, but it's usually because we don't want the guy to think that we're not enjoying it... or we simply want a bad experience to end. Men seem to believe that women only enjoy sex if they orgasm, and given the fact that their skills are learned from porn (which is filled with fake orgasms and completely uncomfortable and borderline painful sex positions), you can't really blame them for thinking this. However, women can enjoy sex if they don't have an orgasm, and be fully satisfied with the experience. However, that doesn't mean that it's enjoyable all the time. However, this doesn't make the experience good for women usually, but a bad lay is better than no lay at all... and sometimes you actually find a guy who knows what he's doing. It doesn't happen too often with guys our age. Women don't want to be "destroyed" all the time. Yea, it's fun every once in a while, but it sucks when that's all that guys think women want, and that's all the "skills" they have. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 20 2014, 03:01 AM.
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May 19 2014, 03:56 AM Post #15 |
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Interesting. I'm having this conversation with one of my gay guy friends right now. He just recently started dating a guy with an uncircumcised penis, and its apparently "fascinating to him," to quote his own words. He also said that neither penis size nor circumcision have any bearing on who he finds attractive. When I asked him to explain, he said "I'm a top, so it doesn't matter." I wonder how bottoms feel. My friend claims that even if he was a bottom, he wouldn't choose a partner based on that criteria, so I don't know. 
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