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Lord Slug
Topic Started: May 17 2014, 02:58 PM (1,635 Views)
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Super Saiyan
May 17 2014, 05:06 PM
Yeah the numbers look good other than Young Slug. If he was that weak, an angry SSJ Goku would have killed him.
Well my gap between Base Goku and Young Slug is bigger than my gap between Young Slug and SSj Goku....

SSj Goku did snap Slug's arm like it was nothing, and proceeded to bash Slug around, though Slug didn't seem to take that much damage. Young Slug was also tossing Base Goku around like a ragdoll, and we also have Base Goku living through some of Giant Slug's attacks.

Huge gaps are implied but we have feats being displayed that contradict them.... Meh, I give up on this movie.
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I have never really watched the movie, but I heard some saying that Old Slug has to be stronger than Tullece because Goku said he never felt such a power like that before or something like that (& apparently this movie has a flashback to movie 3).

I don't know though.

Also SuperSaiyan2 do you think the fact that Goku had to use Kaio-Ken x100 means that Slug has to be stronger than KK x90 (or any other KK significantly below KK X100) or do you think that's just Toei logic, l0l?
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May 17 2014, 05:21 PM
I have never really watched the movie, but I heard some saying that Old Slug has to be stronger than Tullece because Goku said he never felt such a power like that before or something like that (& apparently this movie has a flashback to movie 3).

I don't know though.

Also SuperSaiyan2 do you think the fact that Goku had to use Kaio-Ken x100 means that Slug has to be stronger than KK x90 (or any other KK significantly below KK X100) or do you think that's just Toei logic, l0l?
Not necessarily. Toei likes using Kaioken x100 (see Pikkon vs Goku).

@SaiyanPaladin: Keep in mind that SSJ Goku crushed 50% Freeza's hand the same way.
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May 17 2014, 05:24 PM
StrawHatCrew
May 17 2014, 05:21 PM
I have never really watched the movie, but I heard some saying that Old Slug has to be stronger than Tullece because Goku said he never felt such a power like that before or something like that (& apparently this movie has a flashback to movie 3).

I don't know though.

Also SuperSaiyan2 do you think the fact that Goku had to use Kaio-Ken x100 means that Slug has to be stronger than KK x90 (or any other KK significantly below KK X100) or do you think that's just Toei logic, l0l?
Not necessarily. Toei likes using Kaioken x100 (see Pikkon vs Goku).

@SaiyanPaladin: Keep in mind that SSJ Goku crushed 50% Freeza's hand the same way.
He didn't fracture Freeza's like he did Slug's, and he didn't really crush Freeza's hand in the manga either.

SHC said it; Toei logic.
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May 17 2014, 05:21 PM
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May 17 2014, 05:06 PM
Yeah the numbers look good other than Young Slug. If he was that weak, an angry SSJ Goku would have killed him.
Well my gap between Base Goku and Young Slug is bigger than my gap between Young Slug and SSj Goku....

SSj Goku did snap Slug's arm like it was nothing, and proceeded to bash Slug around, though Slug didn't seem to take that much damage. Young Slug was also tossing Base Goku around like a ragdoll, and we also have Base Goku living through some of Giant Slug's attacks.

Huge gaps are implied but we have feats being displayed that contradict them.... Meh, I give up on this movie.

Giant Slug did survive the attacks of SSJ Goku though , also from Kaioken100x .
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I have checked the movie segment.

It is really weird that false ssj goku is weaker than piccolo powered up kaioken thats what you call kaioken *100

Well I think it is Movie tool. They already used the big surprise trick the false ssj , it was a failure so, there were only two option remained.

1. Genkidama
2 Powered up haxed move..

I think it is a regular Kaioken attack with a Toei Hax Nothing more nothing less



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"I am the bone of my sword."

I would like to point out that Kaio-Sama just states that Slug might be stronger than SSJ Goku.
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Wasn't it Frieza he referred to?
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He referred to both of them.
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Well, for Old Slug, we can get an okay read on his power.

The minions were shown to be able to beat the s*** out of Gohan and hold their own against Weighted Piccolo(save Wings). Assuming the Captain is around the same strength, Old Slug is probably as strong as unweighted Piccolo
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Alex KloonBoss
May 17 2014, 05:37 PM
Wasn't it Frieza he referred to?
Kaio-Sama: Unless I miss my guess, not even Freeza or perhaps even a Super Saiyan can stand up to him"

There's the line for you there from the movie. This is after Slug becomes giant.
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What form of Frieza is he referring to?
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Could be any form (even though initial final form makes sense).

But as for the time-line placement for those that believe Lord-Slug is stronger than 100% Freeza, couldn't it have taken place in an alternate universe where Goku killed 70% Freeza with the Genki-Dama, I have heard of it before so that's not my theory, l0l?
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How strong were Slug's main subordinates? I'm thinking Ginyu force level, as in Jeice, Burter, and Recoome.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Again that all depends on where you have Goku. If its Pre-Zenkai than they'll probably only be around Ginyu level fighters.

However if this is Post Zenkai or Freeza Goku which also adds in implication of Piccolo fused with Nail...then these guy would be coming near Second Form Freeza.
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