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Did SSj Goku get a rage boost on Namek?
Topic Started: May 15 2014, 09:06 PM (1,747 Views)
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

I think it's a valid question considering that SSj2 Gohan was suggested to against Cell.

What do you think?
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His rage triggered the transformation, but I don't think it added another boost on top of that. Unlike Gohan, Goku's power was never noted to change with rage. It would be a bit random if that just happened out of nowhere. But it wouldn't be impossible, considering that Vegeta got a boost in BoG, even if such a thing never happened at the other times he got angry during the series...
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Yeah, I'd say his rage is what led to Super-Saiyan not an extra boost on top of it.
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I agree with those guys, I think his rage was the crux of his transformation rather than an additional boost. I think the same with Gohan's first Super Saiyan 2 transformation.
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It's a possibility considering he went back to his full base power. He was extremely weakened, but he was brought back up to 3 million when he transformed.
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I think his rage triggered the transformation but I don't think he had an additional boost after the SSJ transformation.
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Nah mang, the only person who ever got a stated increase cuz of his rage is Gohan. And Veggie boi but I don't consider BoG canon
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I've asked the same thing in the past and basically believe; if you think Gohan@Cell gets a rage boost, then so does Goku@Freeza... if you believe Goku@Freeza doesn't, then neither does Gohan@Cell.
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May 16 2014, 04:32 AM
I've asked the same thing in the past and basically believe; if you think Gohan@Cell gets a rage boost, then so does Goku@Freeza... if you believe Goku@Freeza doesn't, then neither does Gohan@Cell.
I agree, but Gohan was suggested to have a rage boost according to the Daizenshuu. It suggested that at the TB in the Boo Arc, when he went SSj2, he was only seen to be weaker because he wasn't mad and didn't get a boost.

I don't see it as unreasonable to think that Goku did, but is there any evidence for it?

It really seems to play into the possibility considering that Toriyama only invisioned SSj to be a 10x increase and not a 50x one.
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Sometimes I question if any of you actually watched the show or read the manga and grasped the story.

Goku transformed into the SSJ because he finally let go. It was brought forth by the desire to avenge his friend while feeling absolutely helpless. It is because Goku had the ability to do so but was mentally holding himself back that he finally transformed at that moment.

Gohan, on the other hand, displayed that the true depths of his power were immeasurable. The stronger he got, so did the access he had to that power. Goku noted it while training with him in the ROSAT.

Not only did Gohan transform properly into the next stage, but some of that dormant power was released along with it.

What is so hard to understand?
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Where is any of that stated lol
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This is a story. And the story puts all of that together. Do you always require flat out statements for these things?

Refer to: Namek Saga post Goku arrival. Vegeta's death. Gohan's power bursts. Cell Games. Buu's revival.
Edited by sekzee, May 16 2014, 09:52 PM.
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I'm talking about Gohan's dormant power being released on top of his transformation. You need to prove that.
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It's an interesting theory, and if I found out later it was true then I wouldn't be surprised. But I think his transformation in general was the boost.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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May 16 2014, 10:01 PM
I'm talking about Gohan's dormant power being released on top of his transformation. You need to prove that.
SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Angry) > SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta > SSJ2 Kid Gohan (Final Kamehameha) > SSJ2 Teen Gohan

All implied/stated in the manga.

I'm sure you know how to use Herms' strength checker. All the quotes are there. And if not, read the manga. ;)
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