Mainstream beliefs that have changed?

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Mainstream beliefs that have changed?
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SSJ	May 15 2014, 02:34 AM Post #1
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	What are some average beliefs that have changed within the fandom while you have been on this site? One major one I've noticed is where people place the humans on their power level lists. Back in 2012, it was pretty much common for people to say humans >\> Freeza by the Boo arc. Nowadays some people believe they max out around First Form Freeza.



~~StrawHatCrew~~	May 15 2014, 02:37 AM Post #2
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	Kaboom Effect - Power-Levels are not the only thing that decide a fight but environment, character, skill among other come into play. Also power-gaps aren't that important.



+ Saiyan Paladin	May 15 2014, 02:56 AM Post #3
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	StrawHatCrew May 15 2014, 02:37 AM Kaboom Effect - Power-Levels are not the only thing that decide a fight but environment, character, skill among other come into play. Also power-gaps aren't that important. I agree with this - I think it is a lot better to look at each fight individually and interpret what factors into that fight, instead of taking a specific power gap and applying it across the board to decide what kind of advantage there was. I've also noticed more and more people seeing the light on the whole Evil Boo > Pure Boo, and SSj3 Goku being below SSj3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan. Edited by Saiyan Paladin, May 15 2014, 02:58 AM.



+ Yusuke	May 15 2014, 03:00 AM Post #4
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Power gaps are very important hence Cell tanking Piccolo's blast. Anyways OT. Back in my lurker days, the SSJ3 Goku VS Ultimate Gohan flame wars were still mainstream and some people actually believed SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan Nowdays, it's blasphemy to argue such claim and is heavily looked down upon.
	Ask Yusuke


SSJ	May 15 2014, 03:03 AM Post #5
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	That was pretty much dismissed once and for all by KP in late 2012. Anyone who has argued that past mid-late 2012 is either trolling or has not read the manga.



+ Yusuke	May 15 2014, 03:10 AM Post #6
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Nowadays it's more of a comparison betwen SSJ3 Goku and SSJ Gotenks Pre/ Base Gotenks Post. Pretty much everyone will agree with Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Goku unles they only saw the Anime or are just trolling. BTW, what post was that again?
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SSJ	May 15 2014, 03:11 AM Post #7
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8361524/1/



+ Yusuke	May 15 2014, 03:24 AM Post #8
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Pyrus deleted that post though.
	Ask Yusuke


+ Havoc_Wreaker	May 15 2014, 03:32 AM Post #9
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	the whole dabura and gohan debacle, i feel more people believe gohan is superior now then ever 40 ton feat, was heavily used back then and took literally, less so now goku was often taken has thousands of times weaker then gohan and gotenks, now is less seen as so more in the hundreds range, and some even less 15< 18/17 power discrepancy janemba/ hirudegarn Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, May 15 2014, 03:33 AM.



+ Kaboom	May 15 2014, 03:39 AM Post #10
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Yay, I have a legacy. Anyway... I've seen a handful of people accept the Boo-arc base Saiyans being weaker than Freeza, thanks to Battle of Gods supporting the idea.



+ Yusuke	May 15 2014, 03:51 AM Post #11
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	I don't think i'll ever see myself having Frieza > Base Saiyans. Even before I beleved Base Saiyans > Kaioshin > Piccolo, I had Base Saiyans around the 200,000,000-500,000,000 mark. Simply because I find it absuard that Base Saiyans can't get passed the 120,000,000 benchmark after all the gaining they did. As for other things people have changed their minds about... 1) Kids being very weak. I used to believe this mysef before. It's impossible to have them so low if 18 was scared at the sight of SSJ Goten/Trunks 2) Buu Saga Goku being a lot stronger than his CG self. Likewise, I believed SSJ Buu Saga Goku > SPC at one point before I found out about SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta barely surpassing SSJ2 Kid Gohan. 3) Gohan's state in M10. Before, their was a pretty heated debate over whether Gohan was an SSJ or an SSJ2 in M10 and virtually everyone believes he was an SSJ2 now.
	Ask Yusuke


* Ketchup Revenge	May 15 2014, 03:54 AM Post #12
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Indeed, there are starting to be changes in the gaps that people have between SSj3 Goku in comparison to Gotenks and Gohan. I also notice (more so lately) that the multiplier or power scale for Super Saiyan has begun to change as well. More and more people seem to be accepting the theory of either no set multiplier, or only a 10x multiplier. Base Saiyans staying low seems to be coming into mainstream belief, but all these changes are too infantile to tell. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 15 2014, 03:56 AM.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


AA500	May 15 2014, 04:10 AM Post #13
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Yusuke Urameshi May 15 2014, 03:24 AM Pyrus deleted that post though. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8400319/1/#new, third one down.



* Crashbreaka	May 15 2014, 04:12 AM Post #14
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	I remember limits were pretty popular when I joined, people thought that they would hit a wall and then stop getting stronger altogether. Not something I see a lot these days.



* Ketchup Revenge	May 15 2014, 04:20 AM Post #15
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Crashbreaka May 15 2014, 04:12 AM I remember limits were pretty popular when I joined, people thought that they would hit a wall and then stop getting stronger altogether. Not something I see a lot these days. I'm still a believer of that to be honest. I have a theory that Zenkai ability becomes exhausted, as as a result, the Saiyan's body develops a transformation in order to compensate. (This transformation of course is what we know as Super Saiyan). However, the only way that this would work would be to consider the (likely) possibility that Super Saiyan gains are independent from base gains, and that there's actually no set multiplier or increase for SSj.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


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