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| Tweet Topic Started: May 12 2014, 02:58 AM (1,075 Views) | |
| Indra | May 12 2014, 02:58 AM Post #1 |
 
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if gohan let out all his rage, how strong will he be? |
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| Sam | May 13 2014, 10:39 AM Post #2 |
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Uh, moved to the correct section. And this is too broad of a question. Defining when is the only way to answer this. Mind elaborating? |
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May 13 2014, 10:47 AM Post #3 |
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Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P4.4-6 Goku: “Ah! Wait, Gohan. I have 2 more senzu; you should eat 1. You used up a lot of stamina earlier. [ ] Get angry, Gohan…Remember how you got angry and fought Cell, and draw out all of the power you have. If you do that, you won’t lose to anyone in the entire world! Not to anyone… |
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| + Ryebrid | May 13 2014, 01:45 PM Post #4 |
 
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Probably as strong as he needs to be. Spoiler: click to toggle IMHO, His anger brings forth his latent power, so whatever that may be at the time. |
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| WarriorRace | May 13 2014, 06:12 PM Post #5 |
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I think his anger brings out his dormant power so if he could bring it all out and power up to the max I think he would be at his Ultimate Gohan level during the Buu saga. |
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| TheGmGoken | May 13 2014, 06:28 PM Post #6 |
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Wouldn't he just be Mystic Gohan power for short time. However I think he'll kick some a*** |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 13 2014, 08:08 PM Post #7 |
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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Depends on how strong he is when he rages. For example, he gets mad during the fight with Raditz, but since his body is weak, there's no way he'd ever get as strong as his ultimate form in the Boo Arc. |
 The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him. | |
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| Android17fan | May 13 2014, 08:42 PM Post #8 |
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What Gohan are we talking about? Child Gohan or Teenage or young Adult? |
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| + Ryebrid | May 14 2014, 02:05 AM Post #9 |
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Right, his body needs to be matured and conditioned so he is capable of maintaining the flux in power. Proceeding that is how much latent power he has reserved and/or is capable of releasing at that specific point in time, and his anger is the match that lights it all up. The most real world analogy i could use to define this is The Fire Triangle. |
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| Raiken | May 14 2014, 10:27 AM Post #10 |
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The way I see it, as Gohan got more powerful, the hidden power boosts started silly huge and became smaller and smaller, because overtime, his hidden power was becoming more and more a part of his actual power, his boosts were huge against Raditz and Frieza. So Imagine two bars, one starting at 1, and the other starting at like 1000. As the 1 "Gohan's Normal Power" goes up, the 1000 "Gohan's Hidden Power" goes up as well. But the Hidden Power, goes up at a slightly slower pace. Until finally Gohan's Normal Power is so strong that it meets his Hidden Power, and they're fully one power; that is when we have: "Ultimate Gohan". Edited by Raiken, May 14 2014, 10:28 AM.
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 14 2014, 02:26 PM Post #11 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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I don't know if I'd believe that they got smaller and smaller, it just seems that he was more in control of it. If you honestly think about it, Gohan's hidden ki boost in the Saiyan arc when he headbutts Radtiz was a 1307x (maybe higher) increase. We can also factor in that every time that he released his hidden ki after his fight with Raditz, he didn't lose it to the point where he couldn't remember what happened. As for his power in Ultimate, If you want to factor in the official SSj multipliers, I don't see it as unreasonable that Ultimate Gohan could be 1307x stronger than himself pre ritual. Gohan 1 SSj Gohan 50 SSj2 Gohan 100 SSj3 Gohan (hypothetical) 400 Ultimate Gohan 1307? Which would be a little over 3.25x and some change over his hypothetical SSj3. Considering that some people don't see Ultimate Gohan that much stronger than SSj3 Goku (of whom his SSj2 might have been as strong as SSj2 Goku after his Z sword straining, or perhaps even stronger), I don't see this as unreasonable. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 14 2014, 02:30 PM.
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| sekzee | May 14 2014, 06:29 PM Post #12 |
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People need to remember that Ultimate Gohan is far, far above his limits. Ultimate Gohan >> Gohan (Latent Power Unleashed) |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 15 2014, 04:11 AM Post #13 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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Yes, but it would be higher than a hypothetical SSj3 Gohan. A hypothetical SSj3 Gohan (going by official multipliers) would be 400x his base self (pre ki awakening). SSj3 is pretty much the limit of Super Saiyan transformation, as the form puts so much strain on the user. The body gets modified so much beyond the original natural state that it just can't take the stress of the third transformation. In essence, a hypothetical SSj3 would be the limit of Gohan's abilities, even if it's not the limit of his ki reserve. It wouldn't matter how strong he ever got in a hypothetical SSj3, he'd never reach his true limit with his ki reserve. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 15 2014, 04:14 AM.
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The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him. | |
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| sekzee | May 15 2014, 05:58 PM Post #14 |
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You are assuming that Gohan would transform into a SSJ3 automatically simply because he'd release all of his power. Not that most place too much faith in BOG, but Vegeta didn't transform either yet he displayed power surpassing SSJ3 Goku. |
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| * Ketchup Revenge | May 15 2014, 08:56 PM Post #15 |
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"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"
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I'm not assuming that at all, because I'm well aware that transformations don't work like that. You also need to consider that Battle of God's is non-canon for the most part. It's not the increase in ki that results in a transformation, it's a transformation that results in the increase in ki. This is the reason why you can't just endlessly increase ki in base (or any other form). There's a limit to how much ki you can retain in a single form, which is why you need to change your body in order to use higher levels of ki. And this is why him reaching SSj3 is "hypothetical", or theoretical. The ki you acquire by transforming into Super Saiyan (and following levels) is simply drawn out latent reserves that you're natural body isn't able to access normally (because it's too weak). However, there's a limit to how many times you can modify your body in order to access deeper and deeper into those reserves. The more times the body is modified, the harder it gets physically to maintain these forms, and we're well aware that SSj3 by far uses the most ki in order to simply maintain the transformation. Just because he can (hypothetically) reach SSj3 doesn't mean that it's the limit of his latent power. It simply means that he can't dig any deeper than the ki that he acquires in a (hypothetical) SSj3 because his body can't be modified anymore beyond that. "Ultimate" not only awakened all the latent reserves, but conditioned his natural body to have access to all of his reserves without needing to resort to (inferior) transformations in order to access these reserves. That's the difference between "Ultimate" and an actual transformation. Ultimate is his natural state after he reaches it, while transformed states will always be inferior to a Saiyan's natural state because of the fact that it costs ki to use those forms, even if the pay-off is huge. However, this always means that a person in Super Saiyan or a transformed state will never be able to fight at 100% because it costs ki to not only transform, but keep transformed. Ultimate doesn't. |
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