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Are saiyans stranger than Piccolo ?; Buu saga
Topic Started: May 7 2014, 09:43 PM (3,101 Views)
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May 8 2014, 02:39 PM
Is there no one who steps in and discuss about this? everyon seemss to be a littel bit scary.
It's just been done so many times. I think people are actually content with eachother's opinions.
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Emmeth
May 8 2014, 02:50 PM
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May 8 2014, 02:39 PM
Is there no one who steps in and discuss about this? everyon seemss to be a littel bit scary.
It's just been done so many times. I think people are actually content with eachother's opinions.

What are you details about this
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I believe Piccolo is stronger because for Base Saiyans to be stronger, Piccolo had to lose power in the 7 year gap between Cell Games and Boo arc. Gohan is already stated to be weaker during that time and Piccolo was close to 50% MSSJ Goku is we should believe indications.
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Piccolo jumped from being inferior to imperfect cell to being close to mssj Goku 50%? in htc
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May 8 2014, 03:28 PM
Piccolo jumped from being inferior to imperfect cell to being close to mssj Goku 50%? in htc
That's what most people believe.
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May 8 2014, 03:29 PM
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May 8 2014, 03:28 PM
Piccolo jumped from being inferior to imperfect cell to being close to mssj Goku 50%? in htc
That's what most people believe.
Wait, based on what?
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I personally roll with a 5X SSJ multiplier Cell Saga onwards so Base Saiyans > Kaioshin > Piccolo might not be as hard to scale as some might think.

But like Emmeth said, it's been done so many times in the past. Almost as much as Broly threads.
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May 8 2014, 03:35 PM
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May 8 2014, 03:29 PM
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May 8 2014, 03:28 PM
Piccolo jumped from being inferior to imperfect cell to being close to mssj Goku 50%? in htc
That's what most people believe.
Wait, based on what?
Based on observations here on the forum, Sir.
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I have CG Piccolo just mildly above Imperfect Cell (Post Humans) mainly because I had a huge gap between Pre-RoSaT Piccolo and that form of Cell.
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I find it strange how people can have Piccolo below Semi-Perfect Cell, because that's the minimum Piccolo could surpass and would surpass based on his history and determination. Now, this is only my own opinion, but Piccolo holding his own against Cell Jrs for a while and also the other SSjins doing so (barring Goku), he should be at least somewhat close to Trunks and Vegeta.

Vegeta minimum should be above 50% MSSJ Goku and he only gained power since he fought Initial Perfect Cell. There's a huge gap between Initial Perfect Cell and Semi-Perfect Cell.
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I honestly don't know what to believe anymore, I think that Base Saiyans>Piccolo is illogical cause Base Goku is barely any stronger than Kid Gohan CG, and I doubt this Gohan was close to Semi Perfect Cell in Base. However it seems as if AT wanted the Base Saiyans to be stronger, so I think its really based in opinion.
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The Buu saga is a horrendous mess. Piccolo has to be above both Base Saiyans and Kaioshin and I'll tell you why:

(1) There is no statement that Piccolo lost any power since the Cell saga

(2) Piccolo Post-Rosat was stronger than his Pre-Rosat self, a power equal to #17

Post-Rosat Piccolo > Pre-Rosat Piccolo = #17 > #18

(3) The Base Saiyan Kids are comparable to #18 who is weaker than #17

Post-Rosat Piccolo > Pre-Rosat Piccolo = #17 > Base Saiyan Kids >= #18

(4) Base Gohan was comparable to Base Goten, meaning he can't be too far ahead of him.

Post Rosat Piccolo > Pre-Rosat Piccolo = #17 >= Base Gohan > Base Goten >= #18

Being Generous: Post-Rosat Piccolo > Base Gohan >= Pre-Rosat Piccolo = #17 > Base Goten >= #18

(5) Kaioshin was scared of Pui Pui whom Base Vegeta pummeled effortlessly. If Kaioshin were stronger than a Base Saiyan, he could've easily done what Vegeta did. Gohan wasn't fazed by Pui Pui either. However, Kaioshin wasn't scared for them; he wanted to work together

At Best: Base Vegeta > Base Gohan > Kaioshin ~ Pui Pui

(6) Ergo, we have this:

Post-Rosat Piccolo > Pre-Rosat Piccolo = #17 >= Base Gohan > Base Saiyan Kids >= #18 > Kaioshin ~ Pui Pui

Being Generous, we have this:

Post-Rosat Piccolo > Base Gohan >= Pre-Rosat Piccolo = #17 > Base Saiyan Kids >= #18 > Kaioshin ~ Pui Pui

With all of this in mind, Piccolo should be stronger than Kaioshin. Kami was freaking out.
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May 8 2014, 03:46 PM
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May 8 2014, 03:28 PM
Piccolo jumped from being inferior to imperfect cell to being close to mssj Goku 50%? in htc
That's what most people believe.
Wait, based on what?
Based on observations here on the forum, Sir.
Sorry, I mean what is the actual idea of Piccolo being close to 50% Goku based off.
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May 8 2014, 05:17 PM
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May 8 2014, 03:29 PM
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May 8 2014, 03:28 PM
Piccolo jumped from being inferior to imperfect cell to being close to mssj Goku 50%? in htc
That's what most people believe.
Wait, based on what?
Based on observations here on the forum, Sir.
Sorry, I mean what is the actual idea of Piccolo being close to 50% Goku based off.
Goku's statement.

Anyhow I see it impossible for the Saiyans to be stronger than Piccolo unless he got drastically weaker. Since that was never stated my opinion hasn't changed.
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Isn't it racist to call one stranger than the other?


At the moment I roll with: Base Goku > Base Vegeta > Piccolo > Base Gohan
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