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Ssj multiplier decreasing
Tweet Topic Started: May 5 2014, 04:30 AM (1,738 Views)
+ Ssj3vegito96	May 5 2014, 07:41 PM Post #31
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Frieza saw kaioken x20 goku and saw super saiyan goku. He was more impressed with super saiyan goku's power Kaioken cancels KHH amps, otherwise vegeta would've taken a lot more damage from KKx4 goku's kamehameha
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+ Yusuke	May 5 2014, 07:55 PM Post #32
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Saiyan Paladin May 5 2014, 07:40 PM So how does SSj Goku @ 30,000,000 start beating Freeza @ 80,000,000 in Hand-to-hand later in the fight? The multiplier doesn't start decreasing until much later in the series for people that believe in the theory.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	May 5 2014, 08:06 PM Post #33
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Yusuke Urameshi May 5 2014, 03:52 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins May 5 2014, 02:52 PM It comes from nowhere other than a person's personal preference. I've never really liked the theory of the decreasing multiplier. It comes from AT saying that he envisioned the SSJ multiplier lower. The multiplier decreasing is just as feasible as it staying the same. And AT new he was wrong; he said so himself. Toriyama has never said anything that would lead people to believe that the SSJ multiplier dropped for whatever reason. The SSJ multiplier decreasing is conjecture on the part of those who believe it has. Not saying your wrong by any means since conjecture isn't something outright fallible, but it has no basis other than personal preference. Even using the Gotenks post/pre argument is still arguing for preference.
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+ Yusuke	May 5 2014, 08:08 PM Post #34
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins May 5 2014, 08:06 PM Yusuke Urameshi May 5 2014, 03:52 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins May 5 2014, 02:52 PM It comes from nowhere other than a person's personal preference. I've never really liked the theory of the decreasing multiplier. It comes from AT saying that he envisioned the SSJ multiplier lower. The multiplier decreasing is just as feasible as it staying the same. And AT new he was wrong; he said so himself. Toriyama has never said anything that would lead people to believe that the SSJ multiplier dropped for whatever reason. The SSJ multiplier decreasing is conjecture on the part of those who believe it has. Not saying your wrong by any means since conjecture isn't something outright fallible, but it has no basis other than personal preference. Even using the Gotenks post/pre argument is still arguing for preference. When did AT ever say he was wrong? Edited by Yusuke, May 5 2014, 08:08 PM.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	May 5 2014, 08:12 PM Post #35
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Yusuke Urameshi May 5 2014, 08:08 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins May 5 2014, 08:06 PM Yusuke Urameshi May 5 2014, 03:52 PM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins May 5 2014, 02:52 PM It comes from nowhere other than a person's personal preference. I've never really liked the theory of the decreasing multiplier. It comes from AT saying that he envisioned the SSJ multiplier lower. The multiplier decreasing is just as feasible as it staying the same. And AT new he was wrong; he said so himself. Toriyama has never said anything that would lead people to believe that the SSJ multiplier dropped for whatever reason. The SSJ multiplier decreasing is conjecture on the part of those who believe it has. Not saying your wrong by any means since conjecture isn't something outright fallible, but it has no basis other than personal preference. Even using the Gotenks post/pre argument is still arguing for preference. When did AT ever say he was wrong? He said so in the interview itself. He imagined it as 10 times, but figured out that was impossible because of Kaioken x20.
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Vertical	May 6 2014, 06:04 AM Post #36
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins May 5 2014, 02:52 PM It comes from nowhere other than a person's personal preference. Personal preference? The only personal preference involved is in how to deal with the blatantly obvious ratio shift (base:SSJ) implied within the series. Gero Base Saiyans > Piccolo Kiri (this one is the easiest to disregard but I thought I should list it anyway) Gotenks If I need to go into detail on each point I will... but considering the amount of time and debates on this subject surely I shouldn't... The only reason people deny these implications is to force the 50x multiplier to continue functioning. EDIT: Please note that I do not support the generally accepted decreasing multiplier theory... it is still far to simple to serve it's purpose. Edited by Vertical, May 6 2014, 06:09 AM.
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* Ketchup Revenge	May 6 2014, 01:37 PM Post #37
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Saiyan Paladin May 5 2014, 07:40 PM So how does SSj Goku @ 30,000,000 start beating Freeza @ 80,000,000 in Hand-to-hand later in the fight? Freeza's ki started decreasing fairly quickly after he went 100%. This was the reason why Goku quit the fight because he no longer thought Freeza was a challenge. Not to mention that we also don't know the properties of his 100% form, it could have the same properties as SSj Grade 3 for all we know.
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+ Majin Vegeta	May 6 2014, 04:42 PM Post #38
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	There may be some reasons the SSJ multipliers would decrease, but personally I have everything working just fine without this sudden decrease, also I believe that Kaioken would be used if SSJ was small.
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