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Gohan is not stronger than goku
Topic Started: May 4 2014, 02:13 PM (2,575 Views)
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May 4 2014, 02:18 PM
Gohan thought Goku full power was GOKU holding back. Your argument is invalid.....wow I sounded like a jerk. I'm sorry.
I want to just start by saying I do have Gohan stronger than Goku at the Cell Games, even in the same form. But this quote does not prove Gohan is the stronger of the two. All this means is Gohan underrated Goku's power. For most of the series Gohan has never been anywhere near Goku's level, so now when Goku's power isn't that far off his own (again this is hypothetical - I have Gohan stronger) it would feel like Goku is holding back, because Goku isn't leagues above him like he always is. Just because someone doesn't meet your idolized expectations of them, doesn't necessarily make you better than them in that area.

There are many arguments of Gohan being stronger than Goku, but that really is one of the weaker ones.
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Did you also notice how Gohan did not attack Cell like Goku did while in MSSJ? Gohan wasn't trying against Cell; at that moment he didn't want to fight because as he clearly stated, it was pointless and he DOES NOT enjoy fighting like his father.
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May 5 2014, 11:32 AM
. But this quote does not prove Gohan is the stronger of the two. All this means is Gohan underrated Goku's power. For most of the series Gohan has never been anywhere near Goku's level, so now when Goku's power isn't that far off his own (again this is hypothetical - I have Gohan stronger) it would feel like Goku is holding back, because Goku isn't leagues above him like he always is. Just because someone doesn't meet your idolized expectations of them, doesn't necessarily make you better than them in that area.

There are many arguments of Gohan being stronger than Goku, but that really is one of the weaker ones.
The context of that quote makes it clear that AT intends it as an indication that Gohan>Goku.

Goku:So to you it felt like I was holding back huh?
Gohan:....
Piccolo:Is this true Gohan?!
Gohan:Y-Yeah....
Vegeta:!! Impossible! The brat's lying!
Cell:Hmph!

It's clear that what AT is trying to convey here is that Goku's power doesn't impress Gohan because Gohan is comparing Goku to his own power and Goku fell short. That's what the others took it to mean because they were in disbelief. I doubt AT would make them react that way if he merely intended for Gohan to mean that he had simply overestimated Goku's power.
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May 5 2014, 07:09 PM
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May 5 2014, 11:32 AM
. But this quote does not prove Gohan is the stronger of the two. All this means is Gohan underrated Goku's power. For most of the series Gohan has never been anywhere near Goku's level, so now when Goku's power isn't that far off his own (again this is hypothetical - I have Gohan stronger) it would feel like Goku is holding back, because Goku isn't leagues above him like he always is. Just because someone doesn't meet your idolized expectations of them, doesn't necessarily make you better than them in that area.

There are many arguments of Gohan being stronger than Goku, but that really is one of the weaker ones.
The context of that quote makes it clear that AT intends it as an indication that Gohan>Goku.

Goku:So to you it felt like I was holding back huh?
Gohan:....
Piccolo:Is this true Gohan?!
Gohan:Y-Yeah....
Vegeta:!! Impossible! The brat's lying!
Cell:Hmph!

It's clear that what AT is trying to convey here is that Goku's power doesn't impress Gohan because Gohan is comparing Goku to his own power and Goku fell short. That's what the others took it to mean because they were in disbelief. I doubt AT would make them react that way if he merely intended for Gohan to mean that he had simply overestimated Goku's power.
Yeah, it's been a while since I've read that full scene. I didn't really remember how characters reacted, I only remember Gohan saying he thought Goku held back.
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May 5 2014, 08:34 AM
Just because Son Goku is the main character of the whole dragon ball series, it doesn't mean he is the 'strongest'.
This is true.

Goku wasn't even the strongest in the Boo Arc.
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Goku is the strongest. he became ssjg , thats the storngest character in the whole manga book , plus the fact in GT again and n the movies.

goku can put up a good fight against gohan from cell arc , gohan isnt far away. a little bit a speed and strength thats all.
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What ever Goku did in the future is irrelevant, fact is, Gohan never went all out against Cell while at MSSJ, Goku did. There are more clues and evidence supporting Gohan's superiority than Goku's so...yeah.
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May 5 2014, 09:43 PM
Goku is the strongest. he became ssjg , thats the storngest character in the whole manga book , plus the fact in GT again and n the movies.

goku can put up a good fight against gohan from cell arc , gohan isnt far away. a little bit a speed and strength thats all.
Beerus and Whis are stronger.
Omega Shenron is strongest
Before BoG Gohan was strongest
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May 5 2014, 09:43 PM
Goku is the strongest. he became ssjg , thats the storngest character in the whole manga book
SSJG Goku isn't in the manga book tho
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Gohan went all out cmon he pushed his speed and tried toe escape from cell.

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May 5 2014, 09:52 PM
Gohan went all out cmon he pushed his speed and tried toe escape from cell.

Gohan refused to fight. Goku didn't.
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Gohan did go all out too. he has to be, no reason to not to .
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May 5 2014, 10:07 PM
Gohan did go all out too. he has to be, no reason to not to .
Maybe because he doesn't want to fight? I mean he straight up said it,
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May 5 2014, 10:07 PM
Gohan did go all out too. he has to be, no reason to not to .
He powered up but that doesn't mean he was giving it his all. Gohan's too peaceful to fight anyone (barring his SSJ2 and Mystic self) and he was pretty much gonna die without fighting had it not been for Cell attacking his friends and dad.
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