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how strong are humaans in dbz
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~~Goku-Swag~~	May 8 2014, 10:43 AM Post #61
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	I dont see a reason for krillin to stop training.



Mike XL	May 8 2014, 03:41 PM Post #62
Posts: 1,181 Group: Member Member #8,239 Joined: September 4, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Gundam Seed, Death Note, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho	I think Krillen and Tenshinhan are both in the high millions to early teen millions in the Android, and around the early hundred millions by the Buu arch.



* Ketchup Revenge	May 8 2014, 03:50 PM Post #63
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 10:43 AM I dont see a reason for krillin to stop training. Even if he kept training doesn't mean that he needs to continue to gain power. He could've trained to at least stay in shape, and prevent himself from losing power. We know that power gain in training doesn't always happen because Piccolo kept training during the five year gap between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and Goku didn't, and Piccolo didn't actually gain anything in that time. Goku was still stronger. All he did was develop the Makakensappo (Special Beam Cannon).
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~~Goku-Swag~~	May 8 2014, 04:07 PM Post #64
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	The Assassin May 8 2014, 03:50 PM Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 10:43 AM I dont see a reason for krillin to stop training. Even if he kept training doesn't mean that he needs to continue to gain power. He could've trained to at least stay in shape, and prevent himself from losing power. We know that power gain in training doesn't always happen because Piccolo kept training during the five year gap between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and Goku didn't, and Piccolo didn't actually gain anything in that time. Goku was still stronger. All he did was develop the Makakensappo (Special Beam Cannon). Piccolo still gained at that time.



+ Majin Vegeta	May 8 2014, 04:53 PM Post #65
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	GreatRaditzMan12 May 6 2014, 11:32 PM Yami Marik May 6 2014, 05:58 PM I have Krillin somewhat above Namek Arc Goku, and Tien as powerfull as him, Yamcha is well below that, with numbers: Krillin: 4.000.000 Tien: 3.000.000 Yamcha: 1.000.000 Or something like that, also Krillin sparring 18# was filler, not in the manga(I think lol) You are right about the filler I have The powers slightly higher Yamcha 5,000,000 Tien 10,000,000 krilln 12,000,000 Well that's fine , the humans really are just opinion wise, I could place them a bit higher as well. Goku-Swag May 7 2014, 08:25 PM Krillin trained with 18. It is shown. cant deny facts cmon man. Well its not a fact mate, that scene was anime, and if we count that, then Yamcha>>Olibu who was powerfull enough to go head to head with Pikkon.
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Gracek90	May 8 2014, 05:14 PM Post #66
Posts: 566 Group: Member Member #10,535 Joined: November 27, 2013 Gender Male	That is not the only problem here. According to anime fillers both humans>all fighters from the outworld, so that is also Paikuhan. Anyway according to the topic I think, that Kuririn and Tien are always two steps behind base saiyans so if Goku base in EOZ would be 60 000 000 then for me Kuririn is around 40 000 000 and Tien 30 000 000
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Muyasuki	May 8 2014, 05:34 PM Post #67
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	The Assassin May 8 2014, 03:50 PM Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 10:43 AM I dont see a reason for krillin to stop training. Even if he kept training doesn't mean that he needs to continue to gain power. He could've trained to at least stay in shape, and prevent himself from losing power. We know that power gain in training doesn't always happen because Piccolo kept training during the five year gap between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and Goku didn't, and Piccolo didn't actually gain anything in that time. Goku was still stronger. All he did was develop the Makakensappo (Special Beam Cannon). Thats my general rule of thumb. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, the characters are just as strong as strong as they were the last time you saw them on panel. Gohan's been the only character (excluding Roshi in Dragonball) to ever been stated to have gotten weaker since the last time they were scene and it was mostly to help substanciate that Gohan truly did not enjoy fighting. Every other character has been shown to enjoy it (to various degrees), giving enough implication that (even in times of peace) they'd still train enough to at least stay in shape. As far as the human's power levels go, this is where I have them after the 3 year Android training. Its the last time I think you can get a real accurate estimate to where they are. After this point, I'm not sure where I rate ANYONE thats my rough estimate. Krillin: 28 687 500 Tien: 12 690 000 Yamcha: 11 232 000 Chiaotzu: 2 360 000 I really do think people underrate their power a lot though. As weird as this is going to sound, the advent of the Super Saiyan transformation really allows for them to be a lot closer to the Base Saiyans than they were previously as the Base Saiyans forms truly become irrelevant anyways. Edited by Muyasuki, May 8 2014, 05:35 PM.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	May 8 2014, 05:55 PM Post #68
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	sylentknyte May 8 2014, 12:01 AM I think it's fair to say they either cap out in the 100,000s, or the low millions. The only thing I can say with confidence is that Tien, Krillen, and Yamcha pass 100,000. As far as my opinion on their cap goes, I think they reach the low millions and the mostly cap off at the Android/Cell saga. I'd go: Tien: 2,500,000 Krillen: 2,000,000 Yamcha: 1,200,000 Krillin is stronger than Tenshinhan.
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~~Goku-Swag~~	May 8 2014, 06:03 PM Post #69
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Muyasuki May 8 2014, 05:34 PM The Assassin May 8 2014, 03:50 PM Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 10:43 AM I dont see a reason for krillin to stop training. Even if he kept training doesn't mean that he needs to continue to gain power. He could've trained to at least stay in shape, and prevent himself from losing power. We know that power gain in training doesn't always happen because Piccolo kept training during the five year gap between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and Goku didn't, and Piccolo didn't actually gain anything in that time. Goku was still stronger. All he did was develop the Makakensappo (Special Beam Cannon). Thats my general rule of thumb. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, the characters are just as strong as strong as they were the last time you saw them on panel. Gohan's been the only character (excluding Roshi in Dragonball) to ever been stated to have gotten weaker since the last time they were scene and it was mostly to help substanciate that Gohan truly did not enjoy fighting. Every other character has been shown to enjoy it (to various degrees), giving enough implication that (even in times of peace) they'd still train enough to at least stay in shape. As far as the human's power levels go, this is where I have them after the 3 year Android training. Its the last time I think you can get a real accurate estimate to where they are. After this point, I'm not sure where I rate ANYONE thats my rough estimate. Krillin: 28 687 500 Tien: 12 690 000 Yamcha: 11 232 000 Chiaotzu: 2 360 000 I really do think people underrate their power a lot though. As weird as this is going to sound, the advent of the Super Saiyan transformation really allows for them to be a lot closer to the Base Saiyans than they were previously as the Base Saiyans forms truly become irrelevant anyways. Whoaaaa dude what have you done. Krillin isnt that much stronger than tien , and Tien is waaayyyyystrongerrr than yamcha.



+ Majin Vegeta	May 8 2014, 06:10 PM Post #70
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Well you can't prove it my friend, how do ya know Tien is much stronger than Yamcha or that Krillin is not much stronger than Tien? Its just an opinion. Edited by Majin Vegeta, May 8 2014, 06:10 PM.
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Muyasuki	May 8 2014, 06:11 PM Post #71
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 06:03 PM Muyasuki May 8 2014, 05:34 PM The Assassin May 8 2014, 03:50 PM Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 10:43 AM I dont see a reason for krillin to stop training. Even if he kept training doesn't mean that he needs to continue to gain power. He could've trained to at least stay in shape, and prevent himself from losing power. We know that power gain in training doesn't always happen because Piccolo kept training during the five year gap between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and Goku didn't, and Piccolo didn't actually gain anything in that time. Goku was still stronger. All he did was develop the Makakensappo (Special Beam Cannon). Thats my general rule of thumb. Unless explicitly stated otherwise, the characters are just as strong as strong as they were the last time you saw them on panel. Gohan's been the only character (excluding Roshi in Dragonball) to ever been stated to have gotten weaker since the last time they were scene and it was mostly to help substanciate that Gohan truly did not enjoy fighting. Every other character has been shown to enjoy it (to various degrees), giving enough implication that (even in times of peace) they'd still train enough to at least stay in shape. As far as the human's power levels go, this is where I have them after the 3 year Android training. Its the last time I think you can get a real accurate estimate to where they are. After this point, I'm not sure where I rate ANYONE thats my rough estimate. Krillin: 28 687 500 Tien: 12 690 000 Yamcha: 11 232 000 Chiaotzu: 2 360 000 I really do think people underrate their power a lot though. As weird as this is going to sound, the advent of the Super Saiyan transformation really allows for them to be a lot closer to the Base Saiyans than they were previously as the Base Saiyans forms truly become irrelevant anyways. Whoaaaa dude what have you done. Krillin isnt that much stronger than tien , and Tien is waaayyyyystrongerrr than yamcha. Why? To both things. To answer why I have them where I have them, just see here. There's more evidence (both in universe and out of universe) to support Krillin being much stronger than Tien and Tien and Yamcha being close in power level. Edited by Muyasuki, May 8 2014, 06:13 PM.



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 8 2014, 06:12 PM Post #72
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Tien is always superior to yamcha and keeps training , yamcha doesnt so tien is way stronger , its logical enough



+ Majin Vegeta	May 8 2014, 06:13 PM Post #73
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	He may be wayy stronger than Yamcha, hi he could also be slightly there's no proof, training doesn't always give you big gains at all. I agree Tien>Yamcha but the specific gap is opinion.
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~~Goku-Swag~~	May 8 2014, 06:18 PM Post #74
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	everyone has there own oponiono , but tien always had bigger gap. maybe he is a huge yamcha fan i cant offend him , i respect him but we should be really factual here because its a serious forum with serious discussions. nobody should has happane happeend this problem no.



Muyasuki	May 8 2014, 06:21 PM Post #75
Posts: 743 Group: Member Member #6,973 Joined: November 12, 2011	Goku-Swag May 8 2014, 06:12 PM Tien is always superior to yamcha and keeps training , yamcha doesnt so tien is way stronger , its logical enough Not really. There's no doubt that Tien is stronger than Yamcha (the Z fighters follow a strict pattern level in terms of who is stronger than who and, every time the rankings change, its explicitly pointed out). While Tien is always training, all training is NOT equal nor do we actually know what the training consists of...nor do we truly know thats all that he does. We also don't know that Yamcha doesn't train either. The only times we get ideas of where they are power wise, they're grouped together. So, while the gap between the two will very depending on who you ask, there's very little to a substantial gap (depending on your definition of "way stronger").



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