how strong are humaans in dbz

Rotation Advertisements

We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum.

If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away.

Click here to Register!

If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk

If you're already a member please log in to your account:

Pages:
1
2
3
…
6

how strong are humaans in dbz
Tweet Topic Started: May 3 2014, 10:13 PM (3,413 Views)
~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 10:59 PM Post #16
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 10:58 PM That's pretty invalid. Krillin also went to the Cell Games despite knowing that even Goku would probably lose. The humans show up because they are brave, not because they are powerful. Yet Krillin put up a good fight against cell jrs.



SSJ	May 3 2014, 11:10 PM Post #17
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Goku-Swag May 3 2014, 10:59 PM Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 10:58 PM That's pretty invalid. Krillin also went to the Cell Games despite knowing that even Goku would probably lose. The humans show up because they are brave, not because they are powerful. Yet Krillin put up a good fight against cell jrs. Umm.... no he didn't. Even in the anime filler he got smashed. The manga makes it pretty clear that he got absolutely destroyed by one of them, and they were only playing around.



+ Yusuke	May 3 2014, 11:12 PM Post #18
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	It irks me a lot but Krillin > Tien was made true by Toriyama. At everyone's peaks, I have Krillin at 6,000,000 and Tien/ Yamcha around Base Goku @Frieza.
	Ask Yusuke


* Ketchup Revenge	May 3 2014, 11:12 PM Post #19
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Goku-Swag May 3 2014, 10:55 PM The Assassin May 3 2014, 10:51 PM Goku-Swag May 3 2014, 10:46 PM Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 10:34 PM Ten training means nothing. What does the Shin Kikoho had pave to do with anything? It doesn't affect his power level whatsoever. rofl training means anything. how can tri beam not affect his power level? im not arguing with you. I think what Super Saiyan meant to say is that it doesn't effect his ki (energy) level. Ki level and power level aren't necessarily the same thing. When Tenshinhan forms the Tri Beam, he himself doesn't become as strong as the Tri Beam. The concentrated energy is where the power comes from, not the amount of energy in it. However, amping an attack by concentrating the ki into a single point is different than simply increasing your ki (powering up), even if it produces the same effect for your attacks. So if Tenshinan's regular powerlevel is 2,000,000, he can amp his Tri Beam power to 100,000,000 by concentrating the ki in it. you have some knowledge about dbz , so i discuss with you. i agree with tri beam thing. but doesnt the humans get stronger when they arrive to fight the androids. I remember goku letting tien back off and go along , so tien thought he could fight along with goku. im sure krillin would do the same. he had potential unlock. and i changed my mind and say Krillin is stronger than Tien. I like Krillin more anyways. Indeed. All you have to do it just look at the different instances of powering up in the series. However, due to the English Dub screwing up on a lot of information, this usually involves a lot of reading and looking at the manga, which not a thing that a lot of people like doing. For example, when Goku and Piccolo fight Raditz, Raditz mentions that the two are able to increase the power of their attacks by concentrating their ki into single points, or areas on their bodies. That concentration of ki results in increased attack power, even if the characters themselves aren't getting stronger. Goku from his Kamehemeha jumped from 416 to over 900. Piccolo's first Special Beam Cannon makes him go from just over 400 to over 1400. His second one (that killed Goku and Raditz) was a bit weaker, but probably because his PL had gone down as well. However, then you have instances like the Kaioken, which is stated to actually double your ki. This is another way of powering up. Transforming is obviously another way of powering up, and actually involves changing the actual physical body in order to gain a higher level of power. At the 22nd World Tournament in Dragon Ball (the one that featured Goku vs Tenshinhan in the final match), Krillin and Master Roshi mention that they can sense Tenshinhan taking all the ki in his body and focusing it into his hands, which we then discover is the "Tri Beam", which he uses on Goku and ends up destroying the tournament stage. Roshi mentions that the Tri Beam is potentially deadly to the user because of all the bodily ki it uses, and he also mentions that the Kamehameha is absolutely no match for it. These are simply some examples of instances in which we can understand how "powering up" works in the series, but we still don't have a clear cut understanding of how increasing ki works. I like Krillin as well, and perhaps Krillin's trains frequently with 18, and increases his power... I don't know.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 11:12 PM Post #20
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	cell jrs couldnt hit krillin at all. Watch yourself you can see it too.



SSJ	May 3 2014, 11:14 PM Post #21
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Watch? I don't need to watch non canon anime filler. Please read the manga and you will find that Krillin doesn't do a single thing to any Cell junior. All of what you are suggesting is not canon.



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 11:17 PM Post #22
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 11:14 PM Watch? I don't need to watch non canon anime filler. Please read the manga and you will find that Krillin doesn't do a single thing to any Cell junior. All of what you are suggesting is not canon. DBZ is a anime , i am watching an anime. what are you saying?



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 11:17 PM Post #23
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Manga is a book of dbz , and dbz is the show. its the same. i never read a manga. i like the show.



* Ketchup Revenge	May 3 2014, 11:18 PM Post #24
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	I agree with Super Saiyan. The reason why most fans of the caliber here don't take the anime as literal is because there's a lot in it that contradicts the manga, which is the simplest and most consistent plot, and that's because it was written by the series' creator Akira Toriyama. Krillin in the manga was helpless against the Cell Jrs. Even Goku was in his weakened state. The only ones who were able to even somewhat hold their own was Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks. Everyone else in the group is stomped by them.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


SSJ	May 3 2014, 11:19 PM Post #25
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	The anime is an adaptation of the manga. The manga which was made by Akira Toriyama. The manga is what is the canon source in this discussion forum. The anime was produced by Toei who felt the need to add in pointless filler to the anime. This filler is what has been giving you false information. In the manga, Krillin can't do anything to the Cell Juniors and they are barely using any effort.



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 11:22 PM Post #26
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Hmm i see. so the manga shows not like the anime. i thought it was the same.



SSJ	May 3 2014, 11:23 PM Post #27
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	They are the same in terms of the core story. The same events do occur in each, it's just that the anime had to add extra scenes to delay for time. These extra scenes are what gives fans false knowledge. Edited by SSJ, May 3 2014, 11:25 PM.



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 11:25 PM Post #28
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	I feel like im a noob here. i dont know anything about manga.



SSJ	May 3 2014, 11:26 PM Post #29
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	I highly recommend that you read it, it's a really fun read. And by reading it, it will help to clear up any inconsistencies that you have learned from the anime. I was the same way when I started too



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 3 2014, 11:29 PM Post #30
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	how strong do you have krillin at buu saga anyway



0 users reading this topic


Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Dragon Ball/Z Discussion · Next Topic »

Pages:
1
2
3
…
6