Is it possible SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ2 Goku in Buu arc?

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Is it possible SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ2 Goku in Buu arc?
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SSJ	May 3 2014, 03:09 AM Post #16
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	I doubt he was using full effort, but can we say Fat Boo was either? Vegeta did equally terrible against both of them.



Goddess Ultimecia	May 3 2014, 03:11 AM Post #17
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Perhaps I'm wrong and Vegeta's just a durable beast made from a genetic mutation to gain durability traits similar to a cockroach.
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SSJ	May 3 2014, 03:14 AM Post #18
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Honestly I would say that's too far off lol. Just remember the Saiyan arc, and all the punishment he put his body through.



lazerbem	May 3 2014, 03:16 AM Post #19
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 03:14 AM Honestly I would say that's too far off lol. Just remember the Saiyan arc, and all the punishment he put his body through. Freeza lived though worse, so has Goku
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SSJ	May 3 2014, 03:20 AM Post #20
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Such as?... (Referring to Son) Edited by SSJ, May 3 2014, 03:21 AM.



sekzee	May 6 2014, 07:46 PM Post #21
Posts: 1,336 Group: Member Member #11,101 Joined: March 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Firefaux Favourite Manga Nein	The thrashing that Piccolo Jr. gave him during their TB battle. Goku had a hole through his chest. Vegeta gave Goku quite a beating as well, crushing all of his bones as an Oozaru.



+ Havoc_Wreaker	May 6 2014, 08:07 PM Post #22
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	this also: 166 - Goku vs Vegeta Vol. 38 / Chp. 458 Goku fights relentlessly. Both of them clash at full power, and all at once Buu's energy is full. there even, there are a few quotes stating as much, there at full power giving it there all they even land the same number of attacks in the manga the notion of one is stronger over the other, doesn't seem to be the case here



+ Ssj3vegito96	May 6 2014, 08:29 PM Post #23
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I always thought they were equal in power but I think there is a chance vegeta might've had a very very small power advantage. Vegeta said that goku is a better fighter and during the fight kid buu vegeta says that goku's motivation is what keeps him going longer than vegeta can. Goku's resilience and skill could've made up for the power advantage. Vegeta also says, "atleast you're stronger than your son was against cell". That sounds like he's implying he's strong but not as strong as himself. And like strawhatcrew said, goku said they were completely even at the end of the fight
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	May 6 2014, 08:41 PM Post #24
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	didnt think i would have to pull this out but here ''Their abilities are equal, but they don't reach a conclusion'' if there was any adv either way it would have been mentioned imo equal in abltites,power, same number of hits i dont think its likely one was stronger and another was making up for it with skill u can say who would win in a fight thats fair game, they're has to be a winner and a loser if anything goku would win imo, BOG did a good job of showing how useful IT really is goku going up against someone stronger and using IT to string combos and mass dodging note goku didnt use IT in his fight with vegeta goku would have a edge i think, also note the kid boo fight another time goku uses IT for off and def works wonders when he uses IT in battle Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, May 6 2014, 08:41 PM.



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 7 2014, 08:21 PM Post #25
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Of course not. What does that make any sense. Goku is stronger minimum.



AA500	May 8 2014, 01:11 AM Post #26
Posts: 2,079 Group: Member Member #9,363 Joined: April 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Goku-Swag May 7 2014, 08:21 PM Of course not. What does that make any sense. Goku is stronger minimum. Wow mang, minimum there is no gap at all



+ Steve	May 8 2014, 01:55 AM Post #27
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	As far as I can tell Vegeta is like always the stronger one, Goku just gets stronger because of plot. Vegeta's initial SSj was just as powerful or more so than Goku's who'd been training for ages and had the form much longer anyway. Same with SSj2 Vegeta's seems to be stronger and with BoG it definitely is his SSj2 is as strong as Goku's SSj3. Clearly Goku only ever gets stronger than him because he always needs to be the hero. In a straight up fight with no plot BS at equal forms Vegeta should win every time, Goku is too soft. IT would only really work as a surprise I don't think Vegeta is so daft that if Goku prepared an attack in the sky like against Cell that he wouldn't consider the chance that IT would be used. And it's not that great for non energy attacks once he comes out of it there's a definite pause that shouldn't be hard for someone of equal speed to react to. Anyway OT, definitely, just not so much more powerful that he could win right away, probably something like 5% more powerful.
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+ Yusuke	May 8 2014, 02:17 AM Post #28
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Steve May 8 2014, 01:55 AM As far as I can tell Vegeta is like always the stronger one, Goku just gets stronger because of plot. Vegeta's initial SSj was just as powerful or more so than Goku's who'd been training for ages and had the form much longer anyway. Same with SSj2 Vegeta's seems to be stronger and with BoG it definitely is his SSj2 is as strong as Goku's SSj3. Clearly Goku only ever gets stronger than him because he always needs to be the hero. In a straight up fight with no plot BS at equal forms Vegeta should win every time, Goku is too soft. IT would only really work as a surprise I don't think Vegeta is so daft that if Goku prepared an attack in the sky like against Cell that he wouldn't consider the chance that IT would be used. And it's not that great for non energy attacks once he comes out of it there's a definite pause that shouldn't be hard for someone of equal speed to react to. Anyway OT, definitely, just not so much more powerful that he could win right away, probably something like 5% more powerful. Goku gets stronger because of plot? Sorry, but I don't think that's a very good argument. If were going by that logic, Gohan going from being "trash" to being SSJ3 tier whilst SSJ2 to being in a league of his own, outclassing every unfused character in the manga is this biggest plot hax ever seen in Dragon Ball period. Also, Krillin being stronger than Tien despite Tien training a lot more then Krillin and still not getting to his level by BoG. Those 2 examples are probably bigger plot hax's than Goku being stronger than Vegeta because their never was a huge difference between Goku and Vegeta. Toriyama says "(inset character here) is going to get a boost that will put him above all the other characters" and nobody disputes it. That's how it is. Edited by Yusuke, May 8 2014, 02:18 AM.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	May 8 2014, 02:24 AM Post #29
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	steve, have u seen BOG? gokus fighting someone stronger and holding his own IT isnt for just surprise attacks he can use it for dodging and attacking its one of the most useful techniques in dbz history for a fight with IT goku can string together better combos, be better at dodging all of vegetas best ki attacks and for dodging regular hits too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-2y1Ap31nc obviously goku cant continuously use it but when he does hes going to get more hits in and hit less which is a big adv for goku



~~Goku-Swag~~	May 8 2014, 10:46 AM Post #30
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Goku never used it kamehameha combo against vegeta , otherwise vegeta would be a goner.



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