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Is it possible SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ2 Goku in Buu arc?
Topic Started: May 2 2014, 08:49 PM (2,721 Views)
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I know this seems a little ridiculous given that Goku must have mastered SSJ2 to reach SSJ3. However at least by the time of the e Kid Buu fight Vegeta seemed much more versatile than SSJ2 Goku, even landing some descent blows. I also believe that Vegeta retained his Majin level strength he just lost the ability to take damage to the extent he could with the seal. Any thoughts?
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But SSj2 Goku never fought Kid Buu in the Manga, so how can you compare? And if you're using the Anime then SSj2 Goku did much better than SSj2 Vegeta.
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I think the reason Vegeta was able to last so long is quite frankly his Pride wouldn't let him die (Not to mention Kiddy Boo was pulling punches to torture him). He was too stubborn and knew he was the only person there to help buy time for Goku and the Spirit Bomb.
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Ugh, this reminds me of that stupid comment on Youtube, saying Vegeta could outlast SSJ3 Goku due to him surviving SSJ3 tier punches

In the Manga, Vegeta landed just one hit. After that, Boo beat the ever loving s*** out of him. It was a stomp rivaling 50% Freeza vs Goku

Surviving =/= Being Close To

Even Piccolo landed a hit against 50% Freeza, but it did nothing, like with Boo
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SSj2 Vegeta could be a bit stronger than Goku, I think. In the manga it was never outright said they were complete equals only words like "about equal" & stuff like that was used (not sure on that though).
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No, they were completely equal. The Majin Boost was only enough to bring Vegeta to Goku's power.
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May 2 2014, 09:14 PM
No, they were completely equal. The Majin Boost was only enough to bring Vegeta to Goku's power.
Where does it say that they were completely equal? I said I didn't remember well, but I think mostly it was only words like "about" or so used & when I say Vegeta could be a little bit stronger I don't even mean all that significant, just maybe by number +100 of Goku or something like that.
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I don't really find anything wrong with that notion considering Majin Vegeta seemed to have the edge. That said, the lead he would have would be so minuscule, it wouldn't matter.
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May 2 2014, 09:33 PM
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May 2 2014, 09:14 PM
No, they were completely equal. The Majin Boost was only enough to bring Vegeta to Goku's power.
Where does it say that they were completely equal? I said I didn't remember well, but I think mostly it was only words like "about" or so used & when I say Vegeta could be a little bit stronger I don't even mean all that significant, just maybe by number +100 of Goku or something like that.
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Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”


Goku outright states that he and Vegeta are "complete equal."
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May 2 2014, 09:44 PM
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May 2 2014, 09:14 PM
No, they were completely equal. The Majin Boost was only enough to bring Vegeta to Goku's power.
Where does it say that they were completely equal? I said I didn't remember well, but I think mostly it was only words like "about" or so used & when I say Vegeta could be a little bit stronger I don't even mean all that significant, just maybe by number +100 of Goku or something like that.
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Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”


Goku outright states that he and Vegeta are "complete equal."
Even than he only says that after he fought Vegeta, if he sensed Vegeta's energy before why didn't he say that before. I think he meant that they were "completely even" in the fight, not necessarily power (he could have used the word "equal" if he meant power but instead he said "even").

But that said I never said that they weren't equals, I just said that Vegeta could be a just a little bit stronger so much so that it wouldn't matter in a fight like Prince said.
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I've always considered this as a possibility.

However, even if Vegeta kept his unlocked ki after the Majin charm disappeared, that doesn't necessarily mean that he can go SSj3, despite being as strong as Goku.
Goku could reach it because he had more reserves after he reached SSj2. It's possible that Vegeta hit his peak for reserves with SSj2, and has no more reserves left to even go SSj3.
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May 2 2014, 09:57 PM
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No, they were completely equal. The Majin Boost was only enough to bring Vegeta to Goku's power.
Where does it say that they were completely equal? I said I didn't remember well, but I think mostly it was only words like "about" or so used & when I say Vegeta could be a little bit stronger I don't even mean all that significant, just maybe by number +100 of Goku or something like that.
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Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”


Goku outright states that he and Vegeta are "complete equal."
Even than he only says that after he fought Vegeta, if he sensed Vegeta's energy before why didn't he say that before. I think he meant that they were "completely even" in the fight, not necessarily power (he could have used the word "equal" if he meant power but instead he said "even").

But that said I never said that they weren't equals, I just said that Vegeta could be a just a little bit stronger so much so that it wouldn't matter in a fight like Prince said.
I can say the same thing for Goku then.

I don't see why they should even be slightly ahead/below of each other.
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I never said you can't, but then again that wasn't point.
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May 2 2014, 08:49 PM
he just lost the ability to take damage to the extent he could with the seal.
But Kid Boo vs Vegeta prove otherwise.
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I take it the general consensus has changed from Kid Boo pulling punches to him using full effort?
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