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Buu Saga Power Gaps
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SSJ	May 3 2014, 02:57 AM Post #16
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Vertical May 3 2014, 02:56 AM Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 02:29 AM SuperSaiyan1993 May 2 2014, 03:28 PM Yo, is there any special reason why SSJ is 50x for Goku/Vegeta and suddenly only 5x for Gotenks? I mean, I know Goku/Vegeta are 10x cooler than Gotenks but does the coolness transfer into SSJ power output Regarding the OP, I pretty much have the same list as Doc and SS. Just had to comment on this funny typo Because I don't believe that SSJ Gotenks Pre was all that much stronger than SSJ3 Goku, otherwise Piccolo would have s*** a brick. And considering the substantial evidence to support Base Gotenks Pre > Adult SSJ 2s, 5x worked out to be a nice number. I agree with your general placements and reasoning on this issue. The only problem I have with your solution is that surely something would have been mentioned or noted if Gotenks' SSJ transformation was so drastically different from anyone before him. Perhaps, but do you think that is what the people on the lookout were looking for? At that point in time all that mattered was being more powerful than Boo. Once Piccolo was able to confirm this, that was all that he needed to know.



SuperSaiyan1993	May 3 2014, 03:23 AM Post #17
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 02:57 AM Vertical May 3 2014, 02:56 AM Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 02:29 AM SuperSaiyan1993 May 2 2014, 03:28 PM Yo, is there any special reason why SSJ is 50x for Goku/Vegeta and suddenly only 5x for Gotenks? I mean, I know Goku/Vegeta are 10x cooler than Gotenks but does the coolness transfer into SSJ power output Regarding the OP, I pretty much have the same list as Doc and SS. Just had to comment on this funny typo Because I don't believe that SSJ Gotenks Pre was all that much stronger than SSJ3 Goku, otherwise Piccolo would have s*** a brick. And considering the substantial evidence to support Base Gotenks Pre > Adult SSJ 2s, 5x worked out to be a nice number. I agree with your general placements and reasoning on this issue. The only problem I have with your solution is that surely something would have been mentioned or noted if Gotenks' SSJ transformation was so drastically different from anyone before him. Perhaps, but do you think that is what the people on the lookout were looking for? At that point in time all that mattered was being more powerful than Boo. Once Piccolo was able to confirm this, that was all that he needed to know. So maybe SSJ yielded a 5x increase for all Saiyans involved then during the Buu saga
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


SSJ	May 3 2014, 03:27 AM Post #18
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	It's not out of the realm of possibility. Let me try to work my numbers out in that way and I'll get back to you.



Team Four Star	May 3 2014, 11:09 PM Post #19
Posts: 603 Group: Member Member #6,199 Joined: May 15, 2011 What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox	Goku/Vegeta - 1 Super Saiyan - 10 Super Saiyan 2 - 100 Super Saiyan 3 - 400 Gohan (Post Z-Sword) - 3 Super Saiyan - 30 Super Saiyan 2 - 300 Super Saiyan 3 - 1200 Mystic - 1600 Gotenks (Pre) - 25 Super Saiyan - 250 Gotenks (Post) - 30 Super Saiyan - 300 Super Saiyan 3 - 1200 Fat Buu - 300 Evil Buu - 200 Super Buu - 1200 Buutenks - 1900 Buuhan - 2400 Kid Buu - 400 Good Buu - 150 Vegito - 2000 Super Saiyan - 20000 Edited by Team Four Star, May 3 2014, 11:20 PM.



Vertical	May 3 2014, 11:37 PM Post #20
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	SuperSaiyan1993 May 3 2014, 03:23 AM Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 02:57 AM Vertical May 3 2014, 02:56 AM Super Saiyan May 3 2014, 02:29 AM SuperSaiyan1993 May 2 2014, 03:28 PM Yo, is there any special reason why SSJ is 50x for Goku/Vegeta and suddenly only 5x for Gotenks? I mean, I know Goku/Vegeta are 10x cooler than Gotenks but does the coolness transfer into SSJ power output Regarding the OP, I pretty much have the same list as Doc and SS. Just had to comment on this funny typo Because I don't believe that SSJ Gotenks Pre was all that much stronger than SSJ3 Goku, otherwise Piccolo would have s*** a brick. And considering the substantial evidence to support Base Gotenks Pre > Adult SSJ 2s, 5x worked out to be a nice number. I agree with your general placements and reasoning on this issue. The only problem I have with your solution is that surely something would have been mentioned or noted if Gotenks' SSJ transformation was so drastically different from anyone before him. Perhaps, but do you think that is what the people on the lookout were looking for? At that point in time all that mattered was being more powerful than Boo. Once Piccolo was able to confirm this, that was all that he needed to know. So maybe SSJ yielded a 5x increase for all Saiyans involved then during the Buu saga Again we're faced with the same problem though. I understand why lower multipliers work post-Freeza... but without characters implying that transformations are so extremely different from previous examples... I don't see how such a simple system can be considered correct.
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jwm0028	May 4 2014, 05:23 AM Post #21
Posts: 24 Group: New Member Member #11,279 Joined: April 30, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome/Safari Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	To those lists that have SSJ3 Gotenks at x50-70 SSJ3 Goku, really? Wasn't there a debate as to whether post Z sword Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Goku! And clearly Gohan was handling his business with Buu much better than Gotenks ever did. Hell even when Buu absorbed Gotenks Gohan put up a fair fight. And didn't Goku in SSJ3 take some solid blows from Buuhan? There is no way SSJ3 Gotenks is x50-70 SSJ3 Goku. Maybe x2-4,



SSJ	May 4 2014, 05:25 AM Post #22
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Goku never fought Boohan. The closest he came to any form of Super Boo was when he transformed against Bootenks. The fight never even occurred because Boo regressed back to one of his prior forms.



+ Yusuke	May 4 2014, 05:34 AM Post #23
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	We have Gotenks that much higher than Goku because a lot of us believe his Base self after the RoSaT surpassed his previous SSJ self. Personally, I use a 5X SSJ multiplier so working with this is fairly easy. That's why the gaps are really high. Personally, I have SSJ3 Gotenks around 90X stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan 100X stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
	Ask Yusuke


~~Victorious~~	May 9 2014, 10:04 PM Post #24
Posts: 582 Group: Suspended Member #6,936 Joined: November 1, 2011	So base Goku = 1? OK Kamiccolo full power : 18 Kaioshin full power : 28 Dabura full power : 36 Goku base : 1 SSJ : 50 SSJ2 : 250 SSJ3 : 2,500 Vegeta base : 0.8 SSJ : 40 SSJ2 : 200 post Majin power up base : 1 SSJ : 50 SSJ2 : 250 Gohan base : 0.66 SSJ : 33 SSJ2 : 165 post Zeta Sword base : 40 SSJ : 2,000 SSJ2 : 10,000 post Elder Kaioshin's Ulitmate potential unlocked Ultimate : 70,000,000 Gotenks base : 66 SSJ : 3,300 post RoSaT base : 20,000 SSJ : 1,000,000 SSJ2 : 5,000,000 SSJ3 : 50,000,000 Super Buu 42,500,000 post SSJ3 Gotenks & Kamiccolo absorbed 92,500,028 post Gotenks Fusion worn off 42,500,028 post Ultimate Gohan absorbed 112,500,028 Vegetto base : 140,000,000 SSJ : 7,000,000,000 SSJ2 : 35,000,000,000 SSJ3 : 350,000,000,000
	Victorious' fan made Dragon Ball Z Battle Power (Sentō-ryoku) list


~~Goku-Swag~~	May 9 2014, 10:05 PM Post #25
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Victorious May 9 2014, 10:04 PM So base Goku = 1? OK Kamiccolo full power : 18 Kaioshin full power : 28 Dabura full power : 36 Goku base : 1 SSJ : 50 SSJ2 : 250 SSJ3 : 2,500 Vegeta base : 0.8 SSJ : 40 SSJ2 : 200 post Majin power up base : 1 SSJ : 50 SSJ2 : 250 Gohan base : 0.66 SSJ : 33 SSJ2 : 165 post Zeta Sword base : 40 SSJ : 2,000 SSJ2 : 10,000 post Elder Kaioshin's Ulitmate potential unlocked Ultimate : 70,000,000 Gotenks base : 66 SSJ : 3,300 post RoSaT base : 20,000 SSJ : 1,000,000 SSJ2 : 5,000,000 SSJ3 : 50,000,000 Super Buu 42,500,000 post SSJ3 Gotenks & Kamiccolo absorbed 92,500,028 post Gotenks Fusion worn off 42,500,028 post Ultimate Gohan absorbed 112,500,028 Vegetto base : 140,000,000 SSJ : 7,000,000,000 SSJ2 : 35,000,000,000 SSJ3 : 350,000,000,000 Goku is stronger than Piccoloo. that is proven on manga.



Vertical	May 9 2014, 10:16 PM Post #26
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Goku-Swag May 9 2014, 10:05 PM Goku is stronger than Piccoloo. that is proven on manga. Sometimes, you make me wonder if you've even read the thing.
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~~Goku-Swag~~	May 9 2014, 10:20 PM Post #27
Best debater in the entirre unverse Posts: 246 Group: Suspended Member #11,292 Joined: May 3, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dbz	Vertical May 9 2014, 10:16 PM Goku-Swag May 9 2014, 10:05 PM Goku is stronger than Piccoloo. that is proven on manga. Sometimes, you make me wonder if you've even read the thing. what thing?



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