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Alcohol; Your opinion
Topic Started: Apr 18 2014, 09:56 AM (1,842 Views)
Tonneh
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Great? Good? Bad? Escape? Run the f*** away it's a life ruiner?

What is your opinion on alcohol? Why do you drink? Why do you avoid drinking?
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GrooseStrikesBack
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I don't drink, as I am Straight Edge (YES. STRAIGHT EDGE EXISTED BEFORE CM PUNK).

However, I am against outlawing it, because if people like it, that's fine.
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Tonneh
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I'm pretty much a drunk. Unfortunately for me it's a confidence booster. More of a release with an excuse for me. Doesn't always get me out of s*** - But just gives me an excuse to be me.
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AA500
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I drink to have a good time. If someone wants to do something with their own body then why should the government try to stop them?
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EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The problem is that, it usually not just someone's own body. It's usually effecting other people to in the same way smoking has the issue of second hand smoke on them. We've got drunk driving and of course alcohol is essentially the number one drug problem here in the USA.

But we all know what happened last time we try to outlaw it. Essentailly its either get killed by alcohol, or ban it and get killed by homicide, which is essentially what happened when prohibition came. Alcoholic relate incidents went down and homicide rates and other crimes soared upwards. Which basically means your booze is more important than my life.

drink up me hearties.
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Same opinion on it as weed. Harmful in the long term and even more dangerous if you consume too much of it too often but with responsible use it's harmless.

I drink it because I like the feeling of being drunk. Simple as that.


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EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

One shouldn't even compare alcohol with weed. Weed is one of the least dangerous drugs in the world with a death rate caused directly by it of a resounding zero. If there's anything that deserves to be legalized, it's weed.
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Father Brofist
Apr 20 2014, 12:34 AM
The problem is that, it usually not just someone's own body. It's usually effecting other people to in the same way smoking has the issue of second hand smoke on them.
I don't think "usually" is a fair word to put in there. Drunk drivers and alcoholics are a small minority of people who drink. It's really not fair to punish the majority who can handle their alcohol responsibly because of the minority of people that can't. It'd be like saying we can solve the obesity problem by banning all food that has over a certain amount of calories. Sure, we could do that and it would probably improve people's health. But then is that fair on all the healthy people who want to have a pizza once in a while?

Also it can't really be compared to second hand smoke. If I'm sitting with someone and they light up a cigarette, I'm breathing that stuff in. Someone can sit there and down a couple of beers and it doesn't effect me in any way. The influence of second hand smoke is more obvious and prevalent and also occurs pretty much anywhere. You generally only have to deal with people drinking in either their private residence or a licensed place, which you can pretty easily avoid if you want.

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technically alchool is the most dangerous drug on the planet
since it kills so many people

booze can be hurt ya and heal ya
it has ups and down, personally i drink on occasion
not much of a drinker myself
Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Apr 20 2014, 02:33 AM.
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Vegetachu
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I think Alcohol is nasty. I see nothing wrong with it as long as people do t drink too much with it and get violent or mean and nasty.
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EMIYA
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Copy_Ninja
Apr 20 2014, 02:17 AM
Father Brofist
Apr 20 2014, 12:34 AM
The problem is that, it usually not just someone's own body. It's usually effecting other people to in the same way smoking has the issue of second hand smoke on them.
I don't think "usually" is a fair word to put in there. Drunk drivers and alcoholics are a small minority of people who drink. It's really not fair to punish the majority who can handle their alcohol responsibly because of the minority of people that can't. It'd be like saying we can solve the obesity problem by banning all food that has over a certain amount of calories. Sure, we could do that and it would probably improve people's health. But then is that fair on all the healthy people who want to have a pizza once in a while?

Also it can't really be compared to second hand smoke. If I'm sitting with someone and they light up a cigarette, I'm breathing that stuff in. Someone can sit there and down a couple of beers and it doesn't effect me in any way. The influence of second hand smoke is more obvious and prevalent and also occurs pretty much anywhere. You generally only have to deal with people drinking in either their private residence or a licensed place, which you can pretty easily avoid if you want.

I was making the point that alcohol, like smoking is dangerous because just as smoking has second hand smoke, drinking often leads to issues that involve other people. I usually don't have to worry about being cut off the road because someone was a bit too fat, or a fat person breathing in my general direction isn't going to make me hack out my lungs. Obesity is something that really only effect the individual itself.

A person being obese didn't end up killing some other person by the sheer point of being obese.

Now for your second hand smoke/drinking point. Yes a person downing a couple of beers doesn't effect you. What happens when that person decides to go for a drive though? Suddenly it does potentially effect you. That's not something obesity really does.
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I don't get why everyone says that weed is harmless. In my experience, it has pretty much the same effect on my mind that alcohol does, so you're at just as much danger to society driving high than driving drunk. Also, people handle these substances differently, so one person may be a better driver drunk than they are high and vice versa.

Obviously, don't drive when using either substance, but yeah. Just throwing that out there.
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Having done both numerous times, I'm probably more prone to aggression whilst drunk than high. Not that I'm a particularly aggressive person. Driving is basically a no-go on either though. Your reactions are slowed down too much for it to be safe.
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Apr 20 2014, 02:48 AM
I don't get why everyone says that weed is harmless. In my experience, it has pretty much the same effect on my mind that alcohol does, so you're at just as much danger to society driving high than driving drunk. Also, people handle these substances differently, so one person may be a better driver drunk than they are high and vice versa.

Obviously, don't drive when using either substance, but yeah. Just throwing that out there.
You might be surprise at how harmless weed is. While it has negative effects, puffing smoke into your lungs of any sort is bad for you. The overall negative effects don't come to even fraction of smoking and alcohol. Just look up the "Death" statistics for weed and you might be surprised at just how low those numbers are. You honestly probably have more chances of one of those obese people accidently falling on you and killing you than dying from an overdose of Cannabis.

I think people find it surprising when they hear that weed/cannabis, MJ, etc. isn't dangerous and in the long run. It's less dangerous than any drug out there.

Alochol, smoking, caffeine, crack, you name it, you could take 99.9% of the deaths caused by those things and they would still be above the casualties caused by cannabis. Out of all the drugs there are, it is pretty much the absolute least harmless there is.
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Yeah, I know all of that and agree with it, but I don't get it when people say that weed is harmless. It isn't harmless. It can cause just as many driving accidents as alcohol; it just isn't directly harmful to the person's body.
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