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| + Solid Snake | Apr 17 2014, 05:37 PM Post #1 |
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Piccolo is allowed all abilities. John is allowed all except phasing through objects. Fight takes place on the Lookout, two yards away. Who wins? |
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Apr 18 2014, 11:37 PM Post #31 |
 
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1.Yes he can 2.Show me where it says at full power Gohan takes 30 mins to go to school there is something called crusing they don't go everywhere at max power |
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| + Steve | Apr 18 2014, 11:42 PM Post #32 |
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1. Prove it 2. He says he needs to go full speed and he isn't there in seconds, base Gohan is massively more powerful than Piccolo and obviously faster yet he's not there the instant he goes full speed. At best they hit a couple thousand miles an hour. |
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Apr 18 2014, 11:54 PM Post #33 |
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1. Spoiler: click to toggle Like i said Piccolo mivng around the earth in seconds is not as impressive as you think couple thousand miles an hour lmao Edited by King Kakarot, Apr 18 2014, 11:54 PM.
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| + Steve | Apr 19 2014, 12:36 AM Post #34 |
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And that relates to characters speed...how? Goku even says he can't stop it, it's faster than he can manage if he can fly at light speed or whatever he can catch that. Frieza coined the Death Beam which few people could even react to, his attacks are fast, doesn't mean he is. Small energy attacks go fast it's pretty simple, where big ones like Kid Buu's Earth destroying blast do not. Also they didn't fly around the whole planet even though they were SSj or SSj2 and clearly going as fast as they could to get away from it in obviously a straight line. So clearly they don't all fly at insane speeds, Piccolo certainly does not by that point he might as well be one of the humans. |
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Apr 19 2014, 01:03 AM Post #35 |
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so your saying piccolo in the android saga can't dodge those attacks please tell me your're joking Freiza's death ball was pretty fast as i already proved to you Also you don't need to be light speed to go around earth a few seconds I have already proved that piccolo can indeed go around the earth in a couple seconds it's you who is ignoring the evidence. what are you talking about kid buu's attack was fast as well just because they don't tell you how fast they are going doesn't mean they are slow i'm done debating with you becuase your're basically going to ignore my evidence and come up with your're own theories and show how little you know about db peace |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 19 2014, 01:58 AM Post #36 |
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Piccolo in the anime can fight way faster than light. Don't know about his long distance travel speed but that doesn't matter anyway. Piccolo doesn't fight like a typical Z fighter. He goes all out. King kakarot calm down a bit it's not a big deal Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 19 2014, 02:06 AM.
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| + Steve | Apr 19 2014, 12:44 PM Post #37 |
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Piccolo who is isn't as strong as SSj Goku obviously not. What does Frieza's attack have to do with anything? The fact that it was too fast for Goku when he's obviously stronger than Frieza only proves that Ki attack speed is not at all relative to flight speed. Yeah which Piccolo can't do anyway he's weak as s*** by Buu saga in comparison to everyone but humans. Couldn't even dodge Dabura's spit which shows he's obviously way way weaker than Cell meaning he doesn't even match Gohan's flight speed. It's you who's not posting any evidence at all you're just saying unrelated crap about Frieza's attacks... No but Goku and Vegeta were flying full speed to escape it, so if they could fly around the Earth in a couple of seconds that's what would have happened and yet it clearly didn't they didn't get past the wasteland area they were in. You haven't said any sort of evidence ^ that is clear evidence. Maybe like Vegito, Super Buu, Gotenks and Gohan could go round in a few seconds but Piccolo sure can't. It wouldn't really matter how Piccolo fought he would just get mind wiped, DB characters always think about going all out or whatever which MM would hear and just be like nope. MM could fight on a level playing field with Superman that is enough of a feat to show he wins, he can react to Superman's speed, take his punches and deal damage back. He also destroys a Superman robot which is probably close to the actual Superman in strength. It's plainly obvious that he wins. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 19 2014, 02:17 PM Post #38 |
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Has MM ever fought a blood lusted superman? You're ignoring the fact that piccolo can effortlessly deliver punches that are stronger than planet busters, easily withstand attacks that strong too, and anime piccolo can battle way faster than light. Btw, superman cannot fight much faster than light. He might have lightspeed reaction time and buts it's been stated multiple times that he can't throw punches at lightspeed. So just because MM can keep up with supermans power doesn't mean he can beat piccolo. Piccolo is strong enough to hurt superman, withstand his attacks, and anime version is much much faster. Superman can be hurt by attacks equal to or greater than his own and he can split moons and shatter small planets. Yes that was on the defensive but we've never seen him do much more without the infinite mass punch so I'm not going to assume that on the offensive his punches are star busters. So piccolos punches are at least as strong as his. They're not racing, they're fighting, so idk why how fast they can travel to places keeps being brought up here. Yes MM's travel speed(which isn't even lightspeed) is greater but it makes little to no difference when piccolo is that much faster than him in actual combat I'll say it again. MM doesn't always immediately resort to using mind control like that in the beginning of a fight. You can't just assume that he's going to use his ability to wipe away his memories right away. Piccolo might be too fast anyway, being many times the speed of the light. The possibility is there sure, buts it's unlikely. Now if there's prep and MM has a knowledge of piccolo before hand, then he could win via mind control and like TConner said, they would become best friends  Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 19 2014, 02:20 PM.
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| + Steve | Apr 19 2014, 05:47 PM Post #39 |
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Has Piccolo ever fought bloodlusted superman? I don't know why either of you keep saying that, Superman is far above DBZ we've discussed this many times. Superman can casually lift 5.9 sextillion tons, the whole Earth for 5 days without the use of the sun. You're telling me Piccolo could beat him? Superman can also fly faster than light and thus through time. There is no evidence to suggest anyone goes faster than or equal to light without using teleportation and the anime never says Piccolo fights at light speed anyway... Plus it's non canon so whatever. I don't get why people seem to agree a character can only fly a few thousand miles an hour but can fight at light speed, that makes zero sense. Again nothing ever suggests characters go that fast in DBZ where comics are full of stated feats, stated feats > fan assumption. And Piccolo's punches hardly match Superman's, they might have the energy to blow up a planet but they don't do that they can only damage something that couldn't tank a planet explosion, which Superman can, easily. As could MM his durability is almost as great as Superman's and he can increase it. Plus he doesn't just take hits at a cellular level he diffuses the kinetic energy which means Piccolo's punches wouldn't even tickle. He still has no defense over MM's absurd psychic abilities either or him just turning in to a dragon and eating Piccolo. Even if Piccolo could withstand mindwipes and whatnot he'd still have to at least be stunned by MM's abilities. Lastly upon learning about powerlevels he could just fool Piccolo in to thinking his power level is 800 million sextillion at which point Piccolo, who was scared of Super Buu would cack his pants. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 19 2014, 08:57 PM Post #40 |
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I'm just curious to know if MM has fought superman when bloodlusted. Don't mind it too much Superman is not far above dbz. Lifting the weight of the earth doesn't mean anything. Flash can't lift much but that doesn't make a difference. His punches are faster and hit harder, that's actually been stated. Superman can fly faster than light with time. In short bursts he is slower than light. Ssj goku and frieza were faster than light in combat in the anime during their fight. Piccolo is above after he fuses with kami and he got more powerful after that. OP says all abilities are allowed so I'm assuming anime is allowed and OP hasn't said anything yet. Supermans punches are not far above piccolos if at all. Superman bleeds after getting hit by punches equal to his own and those are not punches that are far above planets exploding. He WILL get hurt if he gets hit and he WILL get hit. The only thing superman has over him is his one shot durability. Piccolo couldn't one shot him but superman can still be hurt by weaker attacks. Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 19 2014, 09:08 PM.
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Apr 19 2014, 09:21 PM Post #41 |
 
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The Superman we see in ANY form never goes all out and is never really capable of it. Until DBZ characters can survive going around in space, going beyond infinite in speed, Tricking out 5th Dimensional and 4th Dimensional Beings, Can survive getting smashed with the weight of two speeding moons, can survive flying through Suns without burning to a crisp. SUperman is so far above DBZ. And I'm not even talking about Prime One Million either. You seem to forget that Superman holds back against everyone and never attempts to kill. That's why he gets hurt is because he's not strengthening his body to its max ability. Here's a good comparison, remember that filler during the Cell arc when Goku is resting in SSJ? And Krillin throws the rock and hurts him with it because Goku's body wasn't strengthened? That's basically how much Superman holds back against virtually everybody he's fighting. He's only really known to ever "cut loose" literally when he's in space since he's stated so many times in so many comics that if he were to try flying or fighting at anywhere above what he usually does either 1) He'll mess the Earth up just by flying or 2.) The planet will be wiped. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Apr 19 2014, 09:24 PM.
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Apr 19 2014, 09:30 PM Post #42 |
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Stop bringing up multiple supermen to help your case use one version. Superman isnt far above dbz keep out of respect threads and actually read his comics. Cell alone can knock out post crisu superman as well as new 52 supes. And i would love to hear how supes is even catching whis. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Apr 19 2014, 09:37 PM Post #43 |
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Lol you know what, you guys are going around using f***ing anime. Stop telling me to stop using multiple versions of Superman when you're being a hypocrite and using Anime to support your points which isn't even canon. Whether it's your boner for Saiyans being these perfect beings or your blatant bias to ignore statements given in ANY Superman comic or hell, even in your own threads where you disregard scans you post and say the opposite. You're just a bag of frickin' laughs. Here's some facts in any Superman comic. Superman NEVER tries, Superman NEVER attempts to kill, Superman IS smarter than 4th dimensional beings, Superman CAN destroy large chunks of the Earth if he were to attempt flying any faster than Mach 3 in the atmosphere. Jesus Christ... |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 19 2014, 09:43 PM Post #44 |
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He rarely tries but he has stated what he can do and those statements don't support him be it able to hit harder unless we include IMP |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Apr 19 2014, 09:44 PM Post #45 |
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What is IMP? |
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