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Comparaison BoG with DBGT
Topic Started: Apr 17 2014, 01:42 AM (8,321 Views)
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I dislike that theory. Kaioshin showed no sign of even considering the potara.
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Apr 24 2014, 08:45 PM
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Apr 24 2014, 08:43 PM
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Goku: "Really incredible...That a guy like him exists..."
Kaio: "I kept warning you but you didn't listen! You should be glad you weren't killed."
Goku: "To stand a chance against him, I'd have to fuse with Vegeta. No, even then I don't think I could win."


That could mean Gogeta, and not Vegetto. The porta were crushed and Vegetto is never brought up again after he defused.
Kaioshin had potara earrings in the movie.
He also had them in GT, why didnt they go Vegetto in GT? But bring up fusion a million times in GT.
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Victorious
Apr 24 2014, 08:53 PM
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Apr 24 2014, 08:45 PM
Victorious
Apr 24 2014, 08:43 PM
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Goku: "Really incredible...That a guy like him exists..."
Kaio: "I kept warning you but you didn't listen! You should be glad you weren't killed."
Goku: "To stand a chance against him, I'd have to fuse with Vegeta. No, even then I don't think I could win."


That could mean Gogeta, and not Vegetto. The porta were crushed and Vegetto is never brought up again after he defused.
Kaioshin had potara earrings in the movie.
He also had them in GT, why didnt they go Vegetto in GT? But bring up fusion a million times in GT.
When would they fuse into Vegetto in GT? Couldn't in Bebi arc. Goku, alone was a good match to S17 before absorbing energy. And they used Gogeta in Shadow Dragon arc.
Besides we already know how Toei likes to milk Gogeta instead of Vegetto.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:04 PM
Victorious
Apr 24 2014, 08:53 PM
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Apr 24 2014, 08:45 PM
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Apr 24 2014, 08:43 PM
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Goku: "Really incredible...That a guy like him exists..."
Kaio: "I kept warning you but you didn't listen! You should be glad you weren't killed."
Goku: "To stand a chance against him, I'd have to fuse with Vegeta. No, even then I don't think I could win."


That could mean Gogeta, and not Vegetto. The porta were crushed and Vegetto is never brought up again after he defused.
Kaioshin had potara earrings in the movie.
He also had them in GT, why didnt they go Vegetto in GT? But bring up fusion a million times in GT.
When would they fuse into Vegetto in GT? Couldn't in Bebi arc. Goku, alone was a good match to S17 before absorbing energy. And they used Gogeta in Shadow Dragon arc.
Besides we already know how Toei likes to milk Gogeta instead of Vegetto.
Looks like you just answered your own argument why SSJG didnt come up in GT either. Despite GT being a continuation of Z, which has SSJG and Vegetto.


Anyway, i'm still looking for something that disproves Super Baby 1 > Beers.

If it's the greatest ki ever fealt, it's the greatest ki ever fealt. And Goku would have already sensed Beers here. Since BOG precedes GT. Simple as that.
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Because their is no mention of SSJG at the slightest and if thier were, Goku would have torn all the GT Villians a new one with his SSJG powers.

Why someone would want to think Toei would include something that wasn't introduced until 17-18 years later in their statement is beyond me.
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Note, I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't mind Beerus being > Bebi or SBV1 > Beerus. Just some questions though.

But that would mean that you have SBV1 > SSJ3 Vegetto, seeing how Goku would've had a good gauge of a hypothetical SSJ3 Vegetto's power and after, or when facing Beerus (dun remember) he was still surprised that such a realm existed.

And last time Goku said anything about "It's the greatest Ki I've ever felt" he obviously didn't include himself.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:04 PM
When would they fuse into Vegetto in GT? Couldn't in Bebi arc. Goku, alone was a good match to S17 before absorbing energy. And they used Gogeta in Shadow Dragon arc.
Besides we already know how Toei likes to milk Gogeta instead of Vegetto.
On top of this, Goku and Vegeta made it abundantly clear that they didn't want to use it against Pure Boo. I recall their words being: "That's not the way we like fighting". And then there's the fact that the fusion is permanent.

Plenty of reasons Vegetto was never used again.
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Goku and Vegeta said they would never fuse again though, so why would he even consider the possibility?
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Also keep in mind that even if Goku's comment of a fusion between him and Vegeta not being able to beat Beers were to include the Porta. That would mean Beers would be stronger than SSJ3 Vegetto [BOG]. That only applies to a BOG Vegetto though, nothing in GT.

The difference between Goku in BOG and GT Baby saga is immense. Considering base Goku in BOG is implied to be weaker than Freeza, while base Goku Baby saga is stronger than Buuhan.
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Why would people assume Vegetto could use SSJ3? Gotenks could use SSJ3 because he learned it. Goten and Trunks couldn't go SSJ3, at least it's never shown.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:22 PM
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When would they fuse into Vegetto in GT? Couldn't in Bebi arc. Goku, alone was a good match to S17 before absorbing energy. And they used Gogeta in Shadow Dragon arc.
Besides we already know how Toei likes to milk Gogeta instead of Vegetto.
On top of this, Goku and Vegeta made it abundantly clear that they didn't want to use it against Pure Boo. I recall their words being: "That's not the way we like fighting". And then there's the fact that the fusion is permanent.

Plenty of reasons Vegetto was never used again.
"That's not the way we like fighting"?

You mean Fusion? That's why they bring in Gogeta in GT, right? That statement there in Z in the kid Buu saga applying more to Gogeta than Vegetto anyway.

Secondly, it's easy to defuse Vegetto. Just have Buu absorb you and you can defuse. Which Goku and Vegeta know.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:39 PM
You mean Fusion? That's why they bring in Gogeta in GT, right? That statement there in Z in the kid Buu saga applying more to Gogeta than Vegetto anyway.

Secondly, it's easy to defuse Vegetto. Just have Buu absorb you and you can defuse. Which Goku and Vegeta know.
They fused because they HAD to. They had no other choice!

Yeah, because Boo was around a lot in GT.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:26 PM
Why would people assume Vegetto could use SSJ3? Gotenks could use SSJ3 because he learned it. Goten and Trunks couldn't go SSJ3, at least it's never shown.
Because one of the fusees is able to use SSJ3 himself .

That's the same reason why Buuhan > SSJ3 Gogeta because one of Gogeta's components was able to use SSJ3.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:44 PM
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Apr 24 2014, 09:39 PM
You mean Fusion? That's why they bring in Gogeta in GT, right? That statement there in Z in the kid Buu saga applying more to Gogeta than Vegetto anyway.

Secondly, it's easy to defuse Vegetto. Just have Buu absorb you and you can defuse. Which Goku and Vegeta know.
They fused because they HAD to. They had no other choice!

Yeah, because Boo was around a lot in GT.
Mr. Buu is around in GT.

He could easily defuse a Vegetto for them whenever they asked.
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Apr 24 2014, 09:49 PM
Mr. Buu is around in GT.

He could easily defuse a Vegetto for them whenever they asked.
He wasn't around when it mattered.
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