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Jun 30 2014, 10:19 PM Post #46 |
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That's a whole different story. What's right is not what's natural. It's important to realize that these are natural instincts that need to be honed in more positive ways. It's silly to blanket wrong something that has contributed to our survival. It's a complex issue. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 30 2014, 10:24 PM Post #47 |
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Izanagi!
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So bullying is in our nature? Some people are destined to be bullied while others are destined to be bullies? Somehow, I don't think so. Seems to me like you're trying to justify people abusing other people. Forgive me if I fail to see how calling someone a '****ing ****ot' is beneficial in any way. It doesn't matter if it contributed to our survival in the past, we need to get rid of it so we can move forward. Edited by Yu Narukami, Jun 30 2014, 10:27 PM.
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Jun 30 2014, 10:30 PM Post #48 |
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It's a tribal rite of passage to test if your peers are worthy allies. Same as what animals do. Do some research on early man, animals and the social interaction of displaying dominance and it's effects. You can never truly move on until you understand the past. You are not going to change nature dude.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 30 2014, 10:31 PM Post #49 |
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Izanagi!
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Yes, but are we early men? No, we aren't. Society ha changed and we need to change along with it. We don't nee bullying to survive, all it does is break people down and cause harm. |
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Jun 30 2014, 10:35 PM Post #50 |
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Perhaps nature didn't intend for those people to pass on their genetic material. I've never seen bullying as a problem. Anyone who didn't enjoy bullying enough put a stop to it. If you let it happen, it's because you choose to let it happen. It's a choice, which is what people don't realize. Of course we aren't early men, but to think we've evolved is crazy. We haven't evolved in thousands of years. We are who we are, take the good with the bad.
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| EMIYA | Jun 30 2014, 10:37 PM Post #51 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Sorry people, its in my genes to bully people now so...unless you can fight back I need you to turn around, pull down your pants and I'm going to take away your virginity. I'm sorry but you guys are just weak now, if you can't fight back that's not my problem. You're a mistake to man's genome, we need people who will attack others and hurt them so badly either physically or mentally so that they end up killing themselves. This is good! Suicide is good because we get rid of all those weak genes. This is why slavery was good also. African's were weak, they couldn't fight back so they deserved to be enslaved. They deserved to be whipped and tortured. And I'm really glad Matthew Sheperd and Martin Luther King Jr. was killed. Obviously if they bullied more people they'd still be alive. But this is what happens when your gay or black. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 30 2014, 10:39 PM Post #52 |
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Izanagi!
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So those people who were driven to suicide because of bullying were weaklings then? Bullying's a handy way of weeding out all the weak an unsuitable people from the gene pool? You think such a savage and pointless process should be condoned today? |
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| olliebalollie | Jun 30 2014, 10:40 PM Post #53 |
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Like you said in your post, they are many forms of bullying. Physical bullying has an obvious solution (In Australia, we are starting to implement one punch rule - if you throw a punch that lands, you'll will be sentenced), but what do we do when it comes to cyber bullying, hurtful mean texts from friends or ex lovers? I think the the social media websites should banned obsessive racists remarks, name calling (I can understand you call someone fat or whatever, but if you have been warned by the mods or by the person her/him to stop it, and still continue you should be banned and be named and shamed). The second step, I think people (kids mostly) should be educated from school and from home. Someone needs to help the youth to understand words and actions have consequences. Education is the key! Thirdly, everybody should try to understand, a lot of the issues in society today such as bullying comes from a natural human instinct - fear. Edited by olliebalollie, Jun 30 2014, 10:42 PM.
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Jun 30 2014, 11:16 PM Post #54 |
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If you kill yourself because you were bullied, that's insane. Clearly you had other problems. It's a part of life whether we like it or not. You should value your life more. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 30 2014, 11:32 PM Post #55 |
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Izanagi!
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Such a defeatist attitude. "It's just the way things are." You do realise that's why it's still so prevalent, right? People act as enablers because they assume that it can't be changed. Also, no. Please tell me you realise how severe bullying can get? Not everybody has this hidden confidence and courage that you assume they do. |
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Jun 30 2014, 11:40 PM Post #56 |
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Everyone should be able to defend themselves. Have the courage to care about your life. If you can't fight, take up boxing or some other martial art and learn how to defend yourself. You guys are missing the point here, clearly bullying is a jerk move, but people need to stop being babies and just defend themselves. If you can't defend yourself, how do you expect to defend your wife, your children? It's part of being a human and part of being anything living. Stand up for yourself, or get mowed down. The choice, and I repeat, the CHOICE, is yours. |
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| EMIYA | Jun 30 2014, 11:44 PM Post #57 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Because it isn't. There are perfectly healthy people with friends and good mental health who are reduced to suicide because of the stress of bullying. There is no gene telling us to bully people. In fact considering it is human nature to be social, doing things that would push away others is kind of counterproductive. Bullying is nothing more than a social stigma that has been put on us to dominate others and it has never had a single benefit to human kind. The Holocuast, The Rwanda Genocide, Slavery, Anti-Semetic Views, Anti-Feminist Views, God Hates Fags, the KKK, Attacks on Matthew Sheperd and a lot more are nothing more than bullying of a grand scale to prove dominance of another person or group and destroy the antics of another. This is again not done through benefit of genes, or human society but by misinformed, misguided and most of all completely incorrect ideology to justify one's own actions and beliefs. This point of saying the victim is in the wrong is literally like going up to a rape victim and saying its her fault she was raped because she didn't bother to fight back hard enough. |
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Jun 30 2014, 11:47 PM Post #58 |
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People who are of good mental health do not kill themselves. Especially not over something as silly as bullying. Their ancestors are rolling over in their graves when they had to scratch and claw to survive everyday. Eating sawdust, disease rampant and the law non existent. Bullying cannot compare to that at all. If you killed yourself over bullying, you are a disgrace to your family. Standing up for yourself is not hard, you can do anything you want in life. Cowardice is never the answer. If it was, we would be living in a horrible world. Good men stood up and refused to be bullied against the Germans. Imagine if these great men shared your narrative. The world would be garbage and you'd be out of existence. Promote strength to do the right thing, not protecting cowardice. Stop trying to rape bait. Literally your response for everything. We are not talking rape, we are talking bullying. Ok? Unless you think bullying and rape are on equal level. FYI, they are not. Edited by p123, Jun 30 2014, 11:48 PM.
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| EMIYA | Jun 30 2014, 11:50 PM Post #59 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Don't even try that bull*** p123 because you damn well know its the exact same concept. Your saying its the victims fault for being bullied. This is the same thing as saying its the rape victim's fault for being raped. |
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Jun 30 2014, 11:51 PM Post #60 |
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Dude. Bullying and rape are not the same. Lol. Like at all. Getting punked and getting genitally violated are two complete different worlds. You should be ashamed of yourself for comparing rape victims to bullying victims. How dare you take rape so callously. |
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