Havoc_Wreaker

Apr 10 2014, 04:23 AM

at yusuke, lel buus power is a lie only works in ur case makes perfect sense

if u dont know what im trying to say u should take some class or something to get better

comprehensions skills

Havoc_Wreaker

Apr 10 2014, 04:46 AM

u posted different forms of super buu
as did i to show u that theres different gokus in buu arc
and that he is stronger later so it is relevant

the daiz quotes puts goku gohan and vegeta stronger and does not contradict the manga

Yusuke Urameshi

Apr 10 2014, 04:04 AM

@The Assassin

Like I said in my previous posfs, Super Buu was supressed various times throughout his existence as evident by Goku and Piccolo calling Buu's ki a "lie". Piccolo still had hope upon initially sensing Super Buu and thought SSJ Pre-Rosat Gotenks could get the job done. Then Super comes on the Lookout and Piccolo thinks that SSJ Pre-Rosat Gotenks would stand no chance against him. Then Piccolo senses Base Post-Rosat Gotenks and thinks "gee this guy might win" despite him losing to Super Buu which would have no relevance in Piccolo's earlier statement when comparing the two Gotenks's power. Buu's full power isn't shown until he escapes the RoSaT.

Havoc_Wreaker

Apr 10 2014, 03:45 PM

is it not clear
first goku cant beat fat buut, hes a suppressed holding back
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P10.5-8, P11.1-3
Piccolo: “Goku…There’s something I want to ask you while I’ve got the chance…[ ] …That Super Saiyan 3 thing earlier…if you had gone all-out, wouldn’t you have been able to defeat Majin Boo?...How about it, am I wrong?”

all out
phrase of all
1.
using all one's strength or resources.

all-out

— adj
1.using one's maximum powers: an all-out effort

— adv
2.to one's maximum effort or capacity

so later we see a stronger and contracted goku


that part of the daiz is ambiguous but it could just mean, that the ssj2's are stronger then gotenks base
which would ultimately put him weaker

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I wouldn't really call his ki a lie.
It's just Boo has abilities that aren't ki related, so it confuses people and causes them to drastically misjudge their own abilities in comparison to his. Even if Boo was as weak as as Piccolo believes, the simple fact that he can continually regenerate from virtually nothing would simply wear the opponent down... as its seen to do again and again.

The senshi at that point in the series had become so accustomed to judging if someone could've been defeated based on ki alone that they had never had to factor in other abilities like this one, simply because they'd never encountered something like it before. Even though Cell could regenerate with almost the same efficiency, even he burned ki doing it; which wasn't what Boo did. The only reason he didn't lose ki after regenerating when he self destructed was because he got a zenkai.