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| SSJ | Apr 9 2014, 10:27 PM Post #16 |
 
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Lol I take this to mean you consider them as equals.  
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| + Emmeth | Apr 9 2014, 10:32 PM Post #17 |
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Well... Depends on which Goku we're talking about... 
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| + Yusuke | Apr 9 2014, 10:34 PM Post #18 |
 
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TBH, I did my best to have the most minimal gap between the two but when you take into consideration all the feats and statements post-SSJ3 Goku, it would only be expected that their would be a lot of huge gaps. As a Goku fan, I really wish he wouldn't be so far behind everyone else. Would be better if the chain was just simply Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku IMO. |
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| SSJ | Apr 9 2014, 11:03 PM Post #19 |
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That is the chain 
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| Event Horizon | Apr 9 2014, 11:08 PM Post #20 |
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The gap is 2,895,904x for me. Nah, but seeing as I use SEG multipliers, my gap is huge, close to SSJ2's. Mine landed at 28,325. 
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| * Ketchup Revenge | Apr 9 2014, 11:54 PM Post #21 |
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I myself am not a huge fan of ridiculous gaps later in the series. I also only fall under the assumption that SSj is only 10x, since that's what Toriyama originally wanted it to be... and is what he admitted he drew it to appear as in the manga. Being that Toriyama actually knows what he intended it to be, I go with his word (if it's verifiable) over any of the guides. I also don't believe that Pre-Rosat Gotenks is really that much stronger than Goku. He could be equal to SSj3 Goku in only SSj, but due to the immense strain that Goku has from SSj3, that would make Goku weaker even if their ki levels are roughly the same. I think Gohan is at most, 5x SSj3 Goku. And considering that Goku thought that himself in Super Saiyan was a suitable fusee with Gohan, it really points to Goku not being thousands of times weaker than Gohan; and likely being much closer. Like in the single digits or 10s. As for Vegetto, I don't have him way stronger than Gohan, and I don't even see a reason to put his base as high as Gohan because we never really see it. SSj Vegetto is perhaps 2x as strong as Boohan, which would only put SSj Vegetto in the 20-30x range of SSj3 Goku. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Apr 10 2014, 12:09 AM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Apr 9 2014, 11:57 PM Post #22 |
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I have Super Vegetto about 1,000 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Apr 10 2014, 12:00 AM Post #23 |
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i like kaboom, emmeth and assassin have a smaller gap then some, gohan and gotenks being only several times stronger works well anything from 4-20 x is fine, as per vegito,but i would still place him massively stronger then goku and everyone else daiz quote says hes far and away the strongest, given that imo vegito is at least a few hundred times stronger then buuhan and even more so when compared to goku |
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| + Yusuke | Apr 10 2014, 02:09 AM Post #24 |
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I mean if it was just simply that instead of Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ2 Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks Post > Base Gotenks Post > SSJ Gotenks Pre > SSJ3 Goku. I'd like the first chain a lot more better. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Apr 10 2014, 02:21 AM Post #25 |
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well you dont HAVE to believe that pre gotenks was surpassed by base post and other info if u look at whats shown critically and not at face value ur opinion could change |
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| + Yusuke | Apr 10 2014, 02:30 AM Post #26 |
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Thing is Piccolo had absolutely no confidence in Pre-Rosat SSJ Gotenks and acually thought Post-RoSaT Gotenks could have a chance at the Supressed Super Buu Piccolo sensed. That and Goku felt comfortable with leaving the Earth in the hands of the kids and even admits inferiority to SSJ Pre-Rosat Gotenks. I tried to counter this by making the gap as small as possible by using a 5X SSJ multiplier so I don't end up with something to gigantic. Still, it is a pretty hefty gap. |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Apr 10 2014, 02:36 AM Post #27 |
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dont want to derail this thread but i will say piccolo retracted that statement literally seconds later with the entire scene being gag it was clear build up then lol no joke Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Apr 10 2014, 02:59 AM.
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| + Yusuke | Apr 10 2014, 03:00 AM Post #28 |
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He never retracted anthing about when he compared Base Gotenks Post to SSJ Gotenks Pre. His reaction was due to Gotenks not being able to beat Buu and not because of his power. Buu's ki was stated to be a lie. The Buu Piccolo sensed was enough for Piccolo to think that SSJ Gotenks Pre couldn't beat him where as he thought Base Gotenks Post would have a chance at winning. Piccolo never retracts this. Then their's always the good ol argument of "The scene was a gag so why should we take it seriously" balony when the entire Gotenks VS Buu fight in the RoSaT was a gag itself. I don't want to believe anything that happened in the RoSaT was true because it was a gag. That logic does more bad than good. Edited by Yusuke, Apr 10 2014, 03:05 AM.
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| ObsessiveFanBoy | Apr 10 2014, 03:07 AM Post #29 |
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If that's the case, then Pure Boo supporters are also right? |
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| + Havoc_Wreaker | Apr 10 2014, 03:14 AM Post #30 |
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Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5 Context: seeing Gotenks after he’d trained in the Room of Spirit and Time Piccolo: “He-he really is different…! He really has greatly powered up…! Th-this just might…!” clear build up here, he might be able to do it, just maybe hopefully ..... Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7 Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to little effect Boo: “May I attack now?” Gotenks: “…Wa-wait a little bit…*thinking* …Tha-that’s strange…That should have effected him a decent amount, but…Hahha~~an! He’s just pretending it didn’t hurt him…” Piccolo: “…Th-this may be hopeless…” and lol no, he says he has a chance then says its almost hopeless gag as in its supposed to be taken as funny WHEN INDICATED not the entire scene bro when they try to make u laugh and joke kk its a joke other wise continue Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Apr 10 2014, 03:15 AM.
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