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Why did neither Goku or Vegeta consider Fusion in BOG; Goku and Vegeta fusion in BOG against bill
Topic Started: Apr 7 2014, 05:04 PM (2,087 Views)
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If one thing was clear, neither Goku nor Vegeta could defeat Bills in BOG. Why didn't Goku or Vegeta consider using the fusion dance so they could gain more power. It was clear that they were outmatched and Bills would have given them time to perform the fusion Dance. It wouldn't have hurt to try.
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They didn't fuse because they knew it wouldnt work. In the new extended edition after Beerus beats SSJ3 Goku he actually says (and before anyone try's to use that excuse, Kibito Kai had new Potara in BOG and Yo Son Goku where he was at party with them):
Goku: "Really incredible..."
Goku: "That a guy like him exists..."
Kaio: "I kept warning you but you didn't listen!"
Kaio: "You should be glad you weren't killed."
Goku: "To stand a chance against him, I'd have to fuse with Vegeta."
Goku: "No, even then I don't think I could win."
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Apr 7 2014, 05:51 PM
They didn't fuse because they knew it wouldnt work. In the new extended edition after Beerus beats SSJ3 Goku he actually says (and before anyone try's to use that excuse, Kibito Kai had new Potara in BOG and Yo Son Goku where he was at party with them):
Goku: "Really incredible..."
Goku: "That a guy like him exists..."
Kaio: "I kept warning you but you didn't listen!"
Kaio: "You should be glad you weren't killed."
Goku: "To stand a chance against him, I'd have to fuse with Vegeta."
Goku: "No, even then I don't think I could win."
But is Goku referring to Gogeta base or overall, because Gogeta would have been able to go SSJ3
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He's not referring to Gogeta at all. He's never even used Gogeta in the manga before. That scene was to show Beerus was too strong for Fusion, and that SSJG was there only hope (as is shown throughout the movie). He was obviously referring to the stronger form that he'd actually used before.

Also, after he transforms to SSJG he says it beyond what he thought was possible, meaning it's obviously>>>Fusion.
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If they fused, the point of the movie would be wasted.

Btw, this goes in GT/Movies :)
Edited by Emmeth, Apr 8 2014, 04:52 AM.
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It doesnt have to be used though, it just needs to be mentioned and fusion itself as a whole was considered useless at best.
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Apr 7 2014, 07:53 PM
He's not referring to Gogeta at all. He's never even used Gogeta in the manga before. That scene was to show Beerus was too strong for Fusion, and that SSJG was there only hope (as is shown throughout the movie). He was obviously referring to the stronger form that he'd actually used before.

Also, after he transforms to SSJG he says it beyond what he thought was possible, meaning it's obviously>>>Fusion.
I was unaware that it had been mentioned in the extended version hence way I though of relating this topic.
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Goku THOUGHT Fusion probably wouldn't work. Now it's up to you to decide whether or not he's referring to a Fusion Dance or Potarra Fusion. Rather heated of a topic I find...
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Why not include both? And plus why refer to a weaker fusion for a much more stronger adversary?
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Apr 8 2014, 07:45 AM
Why not include both? And plus why refer to a weaker fusion for a much more stronger adversary?
You already know my stance on this and we both heavily disagree with one another.
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Apr 8 2014, 07:54 AM
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Why not include both? And plus why refer to a weaker fusion for a much more stronger adversary?
You already know my stance on this and we both heavily disagree with one another.
Why would he refer to a weaker form the he never even used before, instead of the stronger one he DID use, and would know the power of? That makes no sense whatsoever.
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I'm not disagreeing with any of you, but Goku seem to have a pretty good gauge of Gogeta's power, considering he was certain Gogeta would be enough to beat Evil Buu.
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Tconner look at it like this, SSJ3 Goku was easily KO'd right? Super Buu and higher can managed the same. Goku is equal with Vegeta, aside RSSJ and SSJ3, and Goku was confident that a fusion of himself and Gohan can beat Buutenks (SSJ3 according to most). Gogeta as a SSJ3 can beat Ultimate Gohan as easily as Birusu and Buutenks did. Later Goku saiys Potara are the universe's last hope to stop Buuhan, and before this Goku told Vegeta how Buu has changed a LOT since they last fought. After Birusu defeats the heroes Vegeta said his power was something else (two comments from the fusees of Vegito now). As Goku fights Birusu the second time Goku the power he achieved now felt superb but didnt like the fact that he had to borrow everyone's else power to gain that strength instead of working for it.

I'm not sure if I explained with 100% accuracy but I know you can grasp what I'm saying.
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it was already said in some fort of media
that beersus was stronger then even vegito
so regardless to who goku refers to in the movie
hes stronger then both
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Apr 8 2014, 04:03 PM
Tconner look at it like this, SSJ3 Goku was easily KO'd right? Super Buu and higher can managed the same. Goku is equal with Vegeta, aside RSSJ and SSJ3, and Goku was confident that a fusion of himself and Gohan can beat Buutenks (SSJ3 according to most). Gogeta as a SSJ3 can beat Ultimate Gohan as easily as Birusu and Buutenks did. Later Goku saiys Potara are the universe's last hope to stop Buuhan, and before this Goku told Vegeta how Buu has changed a LOT since they last fought. After Birusu defeats the heroes Vegeta said his power was something else (two comments from the fusees of Vegito now). As Goku fights Birusu the second time Goku the power he achieved now felt superb but didnt like the fact that he had to borrow everyone's else power to gain that strength instead of working for it.

I'm not sure if I explained with 100% accuracy but I know you can grasp what I'm saying.
I understand thepower argument yadayadayada. I'm referring to my argument that the Potarra earrings we see in the movie aren't authentic.

The only thing I knoe power wise regarding the fusions as a concrete is that Birusu is far above Super Vegetto by a considerable amount.
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