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SSJ Vegito/Super Bebi Vegeta/SSJ4 Goku
Topic Started: Apr 3 2014, 12:49 AM (772 Views)
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Generally, theirs 2 sides to this debate. One side says SSJ Vegito >= SSJ4 Goku and the other side says Super Bebi Vegeta > SSJ Vegito.

I myself believe the second option but i'm open to the idea of changing my mind if I can see significant evidence of SSJ Vegito being a little bit stronger than SSJ4 Goku. Sure, you have the Perfect Files thing that says SSJ Vegito >= SSJ4 Goku but what if they were talking about a hypothetical GT Vegito instead of Z Vegito? Is their any other evidence for this?
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It was not the Perfect Files.

It was guidebook-like content in the GT special's anime comic book.
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Apr 3 2014, 12:59 AM
It was not the Perfect Files.

It was guidebook-like content in the GT special's anime comic book.
Yeah but they don't specifically mention Z Vegito do they? My gut feeling is they were referring to if Goku and Vegeta used Potara in GT they would be superior to SSJ4 Goku which is much more plausible IMO.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

There's no reason to mention a Vegetto that doesn't exist. There's only one Vegetto and that's the one that appeared in the Boo Arc. If they were referring to GT Vegetto, they'd have made that notion.
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But theoretically he can exist since all they say is that "When Goku and Vegeta fuse using Potara, they obtain power as strong (or even stronger) than a Super Saiyan 4".

That would seem to favour a hypothetical GT Vegito over Z Vegito.
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This is the closes I ever got the Vegito numbers.

Start of GT

Goku: 400
Uub: 390
Z Super Saiyan 3 Goku: 400
Kid Buu: 390

Assuming that Goku= his SSJ3 self and Uub equals Kid Buu.

Now assuming Goku did increase his strength before the fight with Rildo and that Rildo is stronger than kid Buu.

Goku: 450
Rildo: 410-420

Goku was having a good fight with Rildo but he was winning. Now we go to the second Round.

SSJ Goku: 1,125
Sigma Rildo: 900
Meta Rildo: 1,000

Back on Earth Gohan doesn't have to be Ultimate and the need for him to train can be because he lost Ultimate. On top of that let's assume Vegeta has surpassed his SSJ2 self from the Buu saga and is kinda close to Goku and Uub.

Vegeta: 350
Gohan: 300

In GT Gohan is second to Vegeta but he is treated as a Big Gun for the Z warriors and later Baby says he will need Goten to beat Vegeta. Later on Goku needs to go SSJ3 to fight Baby Vegeta but he isn't strong enough.

SSJ3 Goku: 1,856.25
Baby Vegeta: 2,000

Baby Vegeta had the advantage but Goku didn't look like it was impossible to win. Baby then goes Super Baby Vegeta.

Super Baby 1: 3000

Baby gets another huge power up but it doesn't have to be a huge one.

Super Baby 2: 4,000

Goku later goes SSJ4 and this is enough to be Ape Baby who is 10x Super Baby 2.

Oozaru Baby: 40,000
SSJ4 Goku: 45,000

Now lets add The Z high tires here.

SSJ3 Gotenks(post): 152,000
Super Buu: 148,000
Ultimate Gohan: 255,000
Buutenks: 300,001
Buuhan: 403,002

Now let's do Super Vegito. The assumption is that Base Vegito is revelvant to Buutenks but I'll have him under normal Super Buu.

Vegito: 130,000
Super Vegito: 5,000,000

Now lets replug in the GT guys.

Super Vegito: 6,500,000
SSJ4 Goku: 6,550,000
Oozaru Baby: 6,000,000


Super Baby 2: 600,000
Super Baby 1: 520,000

SSJ3 Goku: 450,000
Baby Vegeta: 470,000

Goku: 109,090.9

We end up with Super Buu> Goku by a little but we have Baby Vegeta> Buuhan.by my numbers. We also end up with Super Vegito=/< SSJ4 Goku and if you move Ape Baby over Vegito and SSJ4 Goku up a little more like this.

Super Vegito: 6,500,000
SSJ4 Goku: 7,000,000
Oozaru Baby: 6,650,000


Super Baby 2: 665,000
Super Baby 1: 570,000

SSJ3 Goku: 450,000
Baby Vegeta: 500,000

Goku: 109,090.9

Even more room. And if we go off Goku's statement with Buuhan being the biggest power ever.

Super Vegito: 6,500,000
SSJ4 Goku: 7,000,000
Oozaru Baby: 6,650,000


Super Baby 2: 665,000
Super Baby 1: 550,000

SSJ3 Goku: 360,000
Baby Vegeta: 400,000

Goku: 87,272.7

Vegeta: 50,000
Gohan: 40,000
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To put it simply

Goku>baby>GT ssj gohan>vegito>buuhan

Idk why baby vegeta can't be stronger than buuhan when goten said teenage baby was stronger than anyone else they've fought meaning he's already stronger than base super buu
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