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How strong is Pan?
Topic Started: Mar 23 2014, 11:08 PM (5,510 Views)
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Mar 24 2014, 10:12 PM
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- Goku did all the fighting here, Pan did a KHH on her. So what?

Whoa, buddy, I firmly believe with all of my heart that that makes her in line with Base Goku! It's simply wrong to deprive her of that privilege. I think you're exag'ing Goku's beatdown here.
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- Oh f*ck I don't know maybe the instances where Vegeta tells 18 that he's going to beat her only for him to get his a** kicked. Ring a bell?

Your attitude is just killing my intention to take you seriously. Other than that, bad example. Vegeta can't sense No.18's power and his statements were contradicted. Pan's wasn't?
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- And it wouldn't be an appropriate time to spring into action when Goku is dead and Omega is literally about to destroy the world? That seems about right for her to be useful even if it goes against Papa Gohan's orders. But then again, what the f*ck do I know right? Carry on...

Goten & Trunks > Oob? C'monnnnnnnnnn, man.
Okay, i'll admit I lost my cool with that last post. Things like that happen I guess, no ill will intended.

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Whoa, buddy, I firmly believe with all of my heart that that makes her in line with Base Goku! It's simply wrong to deprive her of that privilege. I think you're exag'ing Goku's beatdown here.


Just went over the fight. Goku was doing most of the damage and cracked the DB on her. Pan then used the KHH on that weak spot and pretty much just carried over the damage Goku did to her.

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Other than that, bad example. Vegeta can't sense No.18's power and his statements were contradicted. Pan's wasn't?


Oh that's just the tip of the iceberg my friend. Vegeta VS Initial Perfect Cell, Vegito VS Buuhan, Gotenks VS Buu and other times. Which fight are you even talking about here?

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Goten & Trunks > Oob? C'monnnnnnnnnn, man.


Yeah but going by your logic, Pan > Uub correct? It would make much more sense for her to do something (given that Uub has at least tried fighting Syn/Omega in the past) given that she's the great almighty SSJ4 tier fighter.
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It's simple.

BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15

You dig?
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Mar 24 2014, 10:25 PM
It's simple.

BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15

You dig?
By your numbers, Goku would be able to beat Naturon. Not only was he not able to win but Naturon took on his KHH like a boss and proceeded to laugh afterwards.
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Mar 24 2014, 10:38 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:25 PM
It's simple.

BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15

You dig?
By your numbers, Goku would be able to beat Naturon. Not only was he not able to win but Naturon took on his KHH like a boss and proceeded to laugh afterwards.
Because he didn't want to hurt Pan, yes.
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Mar 24 2014, 10:41 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:38 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:25 PM
It's simple.

BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15

You dig?
By your numbers, Goku would be able to beat Naturon. Not only was he not able to win but Naturon took on his KHH like a boss and proceeded to laugh afterwards.
Because he didn't want to hurt Pan, yes.
But your forgetting that he took on his Kamehameha and tanked it like it was nothing and got a good laugh afterwards. Goku then ponders how the KHH could be useless against him. A gap that small wouldn't suffice for a feat of that magnitude.
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Oh, have I got something for you, Urameshi!

Episodes 49-53 are gold mines.
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Mar 24 2014, 10:43 PM
Oh, have I got something for you, Urameshi!

Episodes 49-53 are gold mines.
We were pretty much discussing the episodes you just mentioned for this entire thread.

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Mar 24 2014, 10:43 PM
But your forgetting that he took on his Kamehameha and tanked it like it was nothing and got a good laugh afterwards. Goku then ponders how the KHH could be useless against him. A gap that small wouldn't suffice for a feat of that magnitude.
Because Pan was inside. He held back.
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Mar 24 2014, 10:47 PM
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But your forgetting that he took on his Kamehameha and tanked it like it was nothing and got a good laugh afterwards. Goku then ponders how the KHH could be useless against him. A gap that small wouldn't suffice for a feat of that magnitude.
Because Pan was inside. He held back.
Despite Pan telling him to go all out? Goku must have been a prick to have not done so even when he knows he can revive her with the Namekian Dragon Balls. Not only that but all his attacks were pretty much infective against the guy.

And another thing, by your numbers Goku could have gotten the job done as an SSJ. So why would he bother with SSJ4?
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Mar 24 2014, 10:51 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:47 PM
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But your forgetting that he took on his Kamehameha and tanked it like it was nothing and got a good laugh afterwards. Goku then ponders how the KHH could be useless against him. A gap that small wouldn't suffice for a feat of that magnitude.
Because Pan was inside. He held back.
Despite Pan telling him to go all out? Goku must have been a prick to have not done so even when he knows he can revive her with the Namekian Dragon Balls. Not only that but all his attacks were pretty much infective against the guy.

And another thing, by your numbers Goku could have gotten the job done as an SSJ. So why would he bother with SSJ4?
Just watch the episodes again and you'll understand. Goku even explains it.

How'd you figure he could beat him as a SSjin?
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Mar 24 2014, 10:43 PM
Oh, have I got something for you, Urameshi!

Episodes 49-53 are gold mines.
We were pretty much discussing the episodes you just mentioned for this entire thread.

Welcome to the thread!
Oh, I thought we were talking about 3-7. Dur! I know! That's what I'm saying. There's plenty to use, and I will cram it down your throat with my fist. You think I can't, maybe I'm too decent for that, but I WILL. And you will learn to LOVE it.
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Mar 24 2014, 10:53 PM
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But your forgetting that he took on his Kamehameha and tanked it like it was nothing and got a good laugh afterwards. Goku then ponders how the KHH could be useless against him. A gap that small wouldn't suffice for a feat of that magnitude.
Because Pan was inside. He held back.
Despite Pan telling him to go all out? Goku must have been a prick to have not done so even when he knows he can revive her with the Namekian Dragon Balls. Not only that but all his attacks were pretty much infective against the guy.

And another thing, by your numbers Goku could have gotten the job done as an SSJ. So why would he bother with SSJ4?
Just watch the episodes again and you'll understand. Goku even explains it.

How'd you figure he could beat him as a SSjin?
And what reason would that be? His attacks were clearly not doing anything to him.

Because that's what you listed him as

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BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15


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Real nice. Anyways, I think I really need to take a break from this thread. Ciao!
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Mar 24 2014, 11:04 PM
And what reason would that be? His attacks were clearly not doing anything to him.

Because that's what you listed him as

BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15


Goku let Naturon believe he was winning so he'd do something stupid. Turns out, he did do something stupid (let Pan out of his stomach a little to tease Goku)

Lol, I meant SSJ4 :p
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Mar 24 2014, 10:43 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:41 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:38 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 10:25 PM
It's simple.

BA SSJ4 Goku and Pan: 10
Naturon: 4
SD SSJ Goku: 15

You dig?
By your numbers, Goku would be able to beat Naturon. Not only was he not able to win but Naturon took on his KHH like a boss and proceeded to laugh afterwards.
Because he didn't want to hurt Pan, yes.
But your forgetting that he took on his Kamehameha and tanked it like it was nothing and got a good laugh afterwards. Goku then ponders how the KHH could be useless against him. A gap that small wouldn't suffice for a feat of that magnitude.
Naturon didn't exactly tank it. His frill was shredded and he was covered in scratches and crap. He was terrified when it came towards him
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