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How strong is Pan?
Topic Started: Mar 23 2014, 11:08 PM (5,512 Views)
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Thala na Gethu!

Eoz: Defeated a human.

GT Baby Arc: Helpless against Oozaru Baby

Super 17 Arc: KO'd by 17's blast which wasn't even aimed at her.

Shenron: Stomped by pretty much every Shenron's except Frog Shenron I guess.

Her strength? Legit candidate to be Yamcha's daughter.
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^ I forgot to mention that as well. 17's blast knocked her silly where as the other fighters could still get up from his blast.

Pan is SSJ4 tier alright....SSJ4 Raditz tier that is! :lol:
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The problem with Billa's post is that he's ignoring all statements and feats.
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Nobody goes from being knocked out silly with a single blast by Initial S17 to being on the same level as an SSJ4 tier in a span of 3 months.

What good was she against the dragons anyways? Their was that one dragon (the green one, I forgot his name) who was extremely weak that pratically anyone could beat him. Then their's Oceanus that was already damged by Goku before Pan used the KHH on her and finally their's Naturon who I explained a zillion times that his absorption increases are multiplicative rather than additional. None of that proves she's SSJ4 tier.

And then you have to consider the fact she was left out in all the major battles against S17 and Syn/Omega. I don't think Toei wouldn't do that for no good reason if they wanted to establish her as a serious SSJ4 tier fighter.

But hey, if you guys want to believe Pan is SSJ4 tier no matter how absurd and unrealistic it is, what more can I say?
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Mar 24 2014, 04:15 PM
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Mar 24 2014, 03:35 PM
Wow, You guys have EoZ Pan pretty high, I have her in the high hundred thousands tops
There's no reason for you to have her that low, given the statements EoZ and feats in GT.
What statements in EoZ? I didnt say how strong she was in GT so her feats in GT doesnt really matter
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Mar 24 2014, 05:33 PM
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Wow, You guys have EoZ Pan pretty high, I have her in the high hundred thousands tops
There's no reason for you to have her that low, given the statements EoZ and feats in GT.
What statements in EoZ? I didnt say how strong she was in GT so her feats in GT doesnt really matter
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”


She could go pretty far in the tournament. Mind you, many of the contestants were the Z-Fighters.
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I'll agree that EoZ Pan is pretty strong though since Goku was expecting her to go far in the tournament. Maybe even MSSJ CG Gohan tier quite possibly.
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Lol

EoZ Pan would get squashed by RRA Goku. Ridiculous overpowering man.

Most Z-fighter participating TB, so Pan must be strong enough to compete is BS.

Provide any valid evidence which suggests Pan's strength is comparable to grown Saiyans.
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Mar 24 2014, 05:51 PM
Lol

EoZ Pan would get squashed by RRA Goku. Ridiculous overpowering man.

Most Z-fighter participating TB, so Pan must be strong enough to compete is BS.

Provide any valid evidence which suggests Pan's strength is comparable to grown Saiyans.
I already did. Please disprove me otherwise.
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@Billa

Okay, your kinda stretching it a bit too far their man. I agreed with you when you were talking about GT Pan but your making it sound like she's weaker than Hercule or something lol.

Goku expected her to go far in a tournament that was mostly comprised of Z-Fighters (Goku, Goten,Trunks, Buu, Vegeta, and herself) so that says a lot about her power @EoZ.
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Thala na Gethu!

No offence, but a 5-year old Kid that flew around the Earth PLUS Goku's statement puts her in SSJ-tier huh?

Red Ribbon Arc Goku destroyed World's Best Assasin, trained with Karin-sama, destroyed RRA Base. Now thats what I call feat.

Statement with loopholes to make a fishing-net isn't convincing.

EoZ Pan just stomped a Giant Man. Thats all. So, that puts her a SSJ-tier? Explain
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Mar 24 2014, 06:04 PM
EoZ Pan just stomped a Giant Man. Thats all. So, that puts her a SSJ-tier? Explain
All I need is Goku's assurance.

We've seen it before; Trunks and Goten in the Boo arc.
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Except it failed. Goten & Trunks stomped by Fat Buu.

Back on topic: Very same Goku mentioned that Pan wouldn't win.

Pan isn't even worth mentioning when Uub's there.
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Mar 24 2014, 06:13 PM
Except it failed. Goten & Trunks stomped by Fat Buu.

Back on topic: Very same Goku mentioned that Pan wouldn't win.

Pan isn't even worth mentioning when Uub's there.
You can't deny Goten and Trunks' strength and you can't expect them to win against Fat Boo.

Goku says she won't win, but that she'll go pretty far. There are more statements backing my claim that she's very strong rather than your claim that she's weak.
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Lol.

Going pretty far means nothing in debate.

Krillin went far in T.B's.

Tien went far as well.

A real feat? Anything to support Pan's stronger except blind over-powering?
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