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SSjin 3 Goku vs SSjin 3 Gotenks & Fantastic Gohan; EQUAL BATTLE POWERS
Topic Started: Mar 15 2014, 06:51 PM (1,182 Views)
+ Pyrus Mar 15 2014, 06:51 PM Post #1
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 At equal battle powers, can Goku handle the Super Saiyan 3 fusion and his potential-unlocked son?

Gotenks can't use any of the moves he learned in the RoSaT.
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OmegaSaiyan2 Mar 15 2014, 06:53 PM Post #2
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 working together:Gohan And Gotenks
If Not,Then SSJ3 Goku Wins Because Of Skills
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LSSJ4 Batman Mar 15 2014, 06:56 PM Post #3
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 Goku wins because he has more skill.
Buu Saga power levels
Cell and Buu arc power levels
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Topographic Oceans Mar 15 2014, 07:02 PM Post #4
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 The elder Kaioshin's unlock probably didn't change anything in Gohan in terms of skill, and considering how rusty he was, he would be nothing special in equal levels. Gotenks is just plain dumb and would end up bothering more than helping.

Goku will have some trouble considering they are all in equal levels, but I think he wins this one. Gotenks and Gohan aren't really the best fighters in terms of skill.
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+ Yusuke Mar 15 2014, 07:03 PM Post #5
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 Gohan and Gotenks aren't really skilled fighters. If theirs no strain for SSJ3, I can see Goku winning this fight.
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+ Pyrus Mar 15 2014, 07:04 PM Post #6
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 What if they were being coached by Vegeta? He cannot physically interfere or anything, but he can give them advice like Gohan did for the boys in the 2008 OVA.
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Skywalker Mar 15 2014, 07:07 PM Post #7
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 Goku won't have much trouble, Gohan is way too rusty still, and Gotenks isn't anything special aside from his unique moves, which are restricted.
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SSJ Mar 15 2014, 08:40 PM Post #8
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 Honestly I can see Gohan taking this. He isn't so bad of a fighter that he would be one shotted in an equal powers fight. In fact, I can see him lasting long enough to beat both of the SSJ 3s who suffer from very bad energy drain.
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* Yu Narukami Mar 15 2014, 08:41 PM Post #9
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 I'd give this to Gohan and Gotenks. Sure, Goku's waaaa~aaay more skilled than the both of them, but the fact that he's using SSJ3 is really important. Gohan doesn't suffer the same fatigue, so he wouldn't have to constantly take it into account while fighting. Gotenks suffers from the same downsides as Goku, with the additional problems of lacking skill and maturity (which could impact the fight, no guarantees).

Essentially, Team B would only have to outlast Goku, at least until he gets to the point where his power declines severely, to a level where Gohan could deal with him without too much trouble. That task shouldn't be too difficult, considering there's two of them.
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+ Pyrus Mar 15 2014, 08:54 PM Post #10
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 And with Vegeta as their coach, that sounds doable.^
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EMIYA Mar 15 2014, 09:27 PM Post #11
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Skills are something that gives an edge in a one on one fight. For example if Boo Arc Goku fought Raditz at equal powers, Goku's still going to have to use his full power and he' still going to take damage becaue in the end, DBZ is in the long run an issue of power vs power. His skills and techniques help him get to the edge over his opponents but even against the most unskilled, as long as the power is similar trouble will occur.

He can take on Gohan and Gotenks separately but both at the same time, that's honestly going to be too much. Goku' skilled but he's not that skilled. You'd have to bee in the Boo Range or higher imo for one opponent to defeat two in an equalized fights...or in other points considering who the characters are. Goku could take on two maybe even three Nappas with exceedingly harsh difficulties but I can't see it with Gotenks and Gohan and definitely not with Gotenks having his moves and Gohan.

Even less so if Coach Vegeta is out there with his whistle.
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+ Kaboom Mar 15 2014, 09:43 PM Post #12
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 With equal powers and assuming SSJ3's drain is also a non-factor... I'm'a also give this to Goku, even 2-on-1. He's got way more going for him in skill and battle mindset than either Gohan or the fartknocker kids.
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+ Pyrus Mar 15 2014, 09:55 PM Post #13
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 Strain is for sure a factor.
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EMIYA Mar 15 2014, 09:58 PM Post #14
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Does that include Gotenks as well? He appeared to have traded some of his time limit to get rid of the strain (though I can't be sure on that) the simple point is that unlike Goku, Gotenks never had the same issue with strain whether that had to be dealt with by time or the fact that Gotenks is two people I can't recall or know so much.
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DSTREET45 Mar 15 2014, 10:07 PM Post #15
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 I agree with Snake. Goku Is far superior in skill but it's 2 on 1 with equal powers and he's in a form that consumes a lot of ki. His best chance is to immediately take out Gohan and try to use his skill and higher willpower to see who could last longer in SSJ3 between him and Gotenks. However, Gotenks would have the advantage seeing as Goku used energy taking out Gohan while Gotenks is still more or less still fresh.

But if Goku doesn't do that he would still lose.

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Does that include Gotenks as well? He appeared to have traded some of his time limit to get rid of the strain (though I can't be sure on that) the simple point is that unlike Goku, Gotenks never had the same issue with strain whether that had to be dealt with by time or the fact that Gotenks is two people I can't recall or know so much.


IIRC what you said was correct. He didn't appear to be losing power and was about to finish off Buu right before he separated. If Goku could hold out until then he could take it but 15 mins might cut it close.
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