Mr. Satan vs Gohan(Equal Levels)

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Mr. Satan vs Gohan(Equal Levels)
Tweet Topic Started: Mar 12 2014, 04:54 PM (1,788 Views)
Topographic Oceans	Mar 12 2014, 08:55 PM Post #16
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	I don't see the need to make Mr. Satan win this one. Gohan was rusty, but it's not like he lost all of his fighting ability. He was a lot weaker than his previous self, but he was no weakling. Mr. Satan is a peak human fighter, but in terms of skill, all of the main cast is much above that. This Gohan endured training from Goku and Piccolo, and is still most likely a pretty skilled dude. Mr. Satan won a tournament with contestants weaker than the ones in the previous budokais. He is strong for human standarts, but I don't see how he has skill matching the main characters. Edited by Topographic Oceans, Mar 12 2014, 09:17 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Mar 12 2014, 09:23 PM Post #17
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Videl was stronger than her dad at the beginning of the Boo arc. I'd give it to Gohan after a moderately tough fight. Mark Satan is a decent enough fighter, but he supposedly never fought anyone on par with the guys from the 21st-23rd TB. Goku had training from Roshi, Korin, Popo, Kami, and Kaio, and then trained Gohan; Piccolo also had a hand in Gohan's training, and he was just as skilled as Goku was pre-Kami training. Gohan may have been rusty in the Boo arc, but he should still know a thing or two. Plus, his body would be naturally more durable and than Mr. Satan's, I'd wager, due to him being a Saiyan. I figured that's what most people who support the BP of 10 for BODB Goku use to explain him only being twice the raw ki of a farmer.
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lazerbem	Mar 12 2014, 09:28 PM Post #18
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Kamikaze Pyro Mar 12 2014, 09:23 PM Videl was stronger than her dad at the beginning of the Boo arc. I'd give it to Gohan after a moderately tough fight. Mark Satan is a decent enough fighter, but he supposedly never fought anyone on par with the guys from the 21st-23rd TB. Goku had training from Roshi, Korin, Popo, Kami, and Kaio, and then trained Gohan; Piccolo also had a hand in Gohan's training, and he was just as skilled as Goku was pre-Kami training. Gohan may have been rusty in the Boo arc, but he should still know a thing or two. Plus, his body would be naturally more durable and than Mr. Satan's, I'd wager, due to him being a Saiyan. I figured that's what most people who support the BP of 10 for BODB Goku use to explain him only being twice the raw ki of a farmer. This is the same Gohan who was having trouble against the green horn Goten and was dissed by Dabra, Vegeta, and Goku. When one of the nicest people in the series basically says "Wow, Gohan is a pussy now" You know that things have really gone bad. As for Hercule not fighting anyone on par with the guys from the earlier Budokai, we don't know if they meant skill or power wise As for the raw ki level thing, we've seen huge difference in strength with the same gap. 50% Freeza vs SSJ Goku comes to mind. Edited by lazerbem, Mar 12 2014, 09:30 PM.
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SSJ	Mar 12 2014, 09:30 PM Post #19
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 12 2014, 08:52 PM You guys are discrediting Hercule too much. This is a guy who's considered the strongest non-ki fighter in the series. He might just pull a victory here. No way man, I really doubt Satan could beat BoDB Goku in a fight. The feats are not there.



lazerbem	Mar 12 2014, 09:31 PM Post #20
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	SuperSaiyan2 Mar 12 2014, 09:30 PM Yusuke Urameshi Mar 12 2014, 08:52 PM You guys are discrediting Hercule too much. This is a guy who's considered the strongest non-ki fighter in the series. He might just pull a victory here. No way man, I really doubt Satan could beat BoDB Goku in a fight. The feats are not there. No one's saying he could, but that's more a power problem. While Hercule can die from bullets(albeit an off-guard shot to the back), Goku was tanking them. That's a power problem though, not a skill one
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+ Pyrus	Mar 12 2014, 09:34 PM Post #21
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Goten had been training with Chi-Chi, someone who was called a "master" by Roshi. I'd say he's a little more skilled than some give him credit for, if that counts for anything here. True, Gohan's not at his Cell Games level, but he's not a toddler if you get what I mean.
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lazerbem	Mar 12 2014, 09:37 PM Post #22
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Kamikaze Pyro Mar 12 2014, 09:34 PM Goten had been training with Chi-Chi, someone who was called a "master" by Roshi. I'd say he's a little more skilled than some give him credit for, if that counts for anything here. True, Gohan's not at his Cell Games level, but he's not a toddler if you get what I mean. Good point, but Chi-Chi hasn't trained for, what, 20 years?
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SSJ	Mar 12 2014, 09:48 PM Post #23
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	I suggest that all of the Satan believers read through this thread. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8416957/1/



+ Pyrus	Mar 12 2014, 11:35 PM Post #24
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	SuperSaiyan2 Mar 12 2014, 09:48 PM I suggest that all of the Satan believers read through this thread. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8416957/1/ I love that last exchange in that thread.
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+ Solid Snake	Mar 12 2014, 11:44 PM Post #25
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Satan's feat's are nothing more than gags, unless you want bullets > Buu/Cell then you guys seriously need to fix what you think. Chi Chi was able to fight with Goku post Kami (even if holding back) and managed to keep the pressure on him, until he decided to end the match. Do you seriously think Satan at his prime gonna match that same Goku? I doubt it. Gohan's is physically stronger rivalling Goku, that has to do with his training with Piccolo and Goku, and later Kaioshin.
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Skywalker	Mar 13 2014, 02:03 AM Post #26
Posts: 779 Group: Member Member #5,634 Joined: January 18, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Gurren Lagann, DB/Z/Super, Naruto What Browser do you use? Chrome	Gohan is pretty bad at equal levels, but he's not Hercule bad.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Mar 13 2014, 05:27 PM Post #27
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	The best answer. ^



lazerbem	Mar 13 2014, 05:50 PM Post #28
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Professor Gohan Mar 13 2014, 05:27 PM The best answer. ^ How is Hercule bad at equal levels? He beat the crap out of Van Zant and Smitty when they had guns. They had to get a cheap, off-guard shot to take him down
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Topographic Oceans	Mar 13 2014, 06:07 PM Post #29
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	Mr. Satan was visibly tired after defeating the gunman and his butler, so it's not like he did it without breaking a sweat. And that's not equal levels. It's a capable fighter against two random and probably untrained men. Mr. Satan is obviously a strong dude, but even in terms of skill, I don't see the need to put him close to the main cast. Edited by Topographic Oceans, Mar 13 2014, 06:09 PM.
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Rogafufuken	Mar 15 2014, 10:16 PM Post #30
Posts: 1,483 Group: Member Member #10,933 Joined: February 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z/Kai, and Nisekoi What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z, and One Piece	Gohan is a much better fighter, with better strategy and tactics, as he was trained by two masters of martial arts. Also, Hercule is arrogant, and not as good at strategy compared to Gohan. So Gohan takes this. A Budokai win means nothing for him sense his opponents were all about the same as him in strategy, tactics, and training.



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