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base Vegeta & base goku ( cell saga) vs Krillin & Tien( at their peak)
Topic Started: Mar 11 2014, 06:04 PM (1,690 Views)
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Who wins?Tenshinhan can't use kikoho, but krillin has destructo disk.
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Tien (peak) - 3,000,000,000
Krillin (peak) - 5,000,000

Vegeta - 1,000,000,000
Goku - 1,400,000,000

I have Tien winning with ease.
Buu Saga power levels
Cell and Buu arc power levels
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Anytime after Namek, Goku or Vegeta could near-effortlessly kill Kuririn or Tenshinhan with a single blow, whether the victims are at their "peak" or not.
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I have Base CG Saiyans all stronger than 100% Frieza so either Goku or Vegeta can solo this fight on their own.
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Krillin 11 million
Tien 10 million
Goku 180 million
Vegeta 90 million

Its just some rough numbers tho, but the gap is pretty much what i believe.
Edited by Hearts, Mar 11 2014, 06:42 PM.
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In my case the gap is slightly lower I have it like:
Goku: 60 000 000
Vegeta: 50 000 000
Kuririn: 20 000 000
Tien: 15 000 000

Still not a fight.
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Mar 11 2014, 06:19 PM
Tien (peak) - 3,000,000,000
Krillin (peak) - 5,000,000

Vegeta - 1,000,000,000
Goku - 1,400,000,000

I have Tien winning with ease.
Pardon me, but I'm requesting your reasoning as to why Tenshinhan is literally 600x stronger than Krillin. Was that hopefully just a typo?

If it wasn't, you'd be wrong, and that's not even being a troll on my part. Krillin was factually the strongest human by the end of the manga according to Toriyama. Krillin stopped training after the Cell Games, so it should be that point where Ten can't catch up even after 17 years of training.
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Mar 11 2014, 09:19 PM
Krillin was factually the strongest human by the end of the manga according to Toriyama
Even if this wasnt the case, 600x is WAY too much
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Mar 11 2014, 09:31 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Mar 11 2014, 09:19 PM
Krillin was factually the strongest human by the end of the manga according to Toriyama
Even if this wasnt the case, 600x is WAY too much
I agree, and with his BPs, Tenshinhan would probably end up on par with Base Goku & Vegeta in the Boo arc as well since neither of them surpassed Kid Gohan by much at that point.

Tenshinhan has never been on par with the Base Saiyans. None of the humans have, at least not in Z. They've always been quite a ways behind.

BOZ
Goku: 416
Ten: 250 (60%)
Saiyan
Goku: 8,000
Ten: 1,830 (22%)

And then it never seemed to get better, especially with the Saiyans getting zenkais and having better training methods available to them. Krillin managed to keep up with Gohan up until the end of the Freeza arc, where Gohan got another zenkai or two on top of his power rising from Guru's ability, while Krillin just had the latter, but that's about it. Tenshinhan going from a quarter of Goku's strength, passing up Krillin, and then rivaling the Base Saiyans doesn't seem viable.
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I could give the humans every single type of potential unlock in the manga and they wouldn't come close to touching the base Saiyans.
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Mar 11 2014, 09:44 PM
BOZ
Goku: 416
Ten: 250 (60%)
Saiyan
Goku: 8,000
Ten: 1,830 (22%)
And then the Namek Nation attacked

Goku: 3000000
Tien: 50000 (random low number for Goku but probably high for Tien)
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That's exactly what I'm saying. Similar to Krillin and Ten, the Base Saiyans got too far ahead of the humans and that never changed or got better as far as we know.
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To be fair, I do have Android Saga Humans not a huge amount weaker than the Base Saiyans (during the Android Saga)

It wasn't until after the RoSaT did Base Saiyans have big leads over the Humans. And the Buu Arc was just an overkill.
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Yusuke Urameshi
Mar 11 2014, 10:45 PM
To be fair, I do have Android Saga Humans not a huge amount weaker than the Base Saiyans (during the Android Saga)

It wasn't until after the RoSaT did Base Saiyans have big leads over the Humans. And the Buu Arc was just an overkill.
I dont think many people do, whats the general idea here

Humans = 1 million
Saiyans = 5 million

Or somehting like that?
But when i think about it, I dont see why humans should even be that strong, Krillin maybe but during Namek saga, the others should be at single digit thousand while Krillin is at hundred digit thousands during Namek Saga.
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I'm sure the saiyans are still stronger than them. They got so much stronger so quick throughout he series humans can't really compete anymore
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