My power levels (Cell & Buu sagas)

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My power levels (Cell & Buu sagas)
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LSSJ4 Batman	Mar 10 2014, 01:46 PM Post #1
The Champ Posts: 623 Group: Duplicate Member #8,485 Joined: October 29, 2012	Note: - I'm don't take Gotenks seriously until he turns SSJ3, so don't be suprised if I have his base and SSJ forms too low. Multipliers SSJ (Initial) - 50x base SSJ - 10x base ASSJ - 1.5x SSJ USSJ - 3x ASSJ SSJ2 - 10x SSJ SSJ3 - 4x SSJ2 SSJ3 (Gotenks) - 4x SSJ Power Differences 1.0 - 1.09: Equal 1.1 - 1.29: Minimal advantage 1.3 - 1.9: Moderate advantage 1.91+: One-shot Trunks Saga Goku - 4,500,000 [Super Saiyan] - 225,000,000 Trunks - 4,200,000 [Super Saiyan] - 210,000,000 Vegeta - 3,700,000 Piccolo - 3,300,000 Gohan - 600,000 Krillin - 80,000 Tien - 95,000 Yamcha - 38,000 Chiaotzu - 20,000 Mecha Frieza - 85,000,000 [full power, not shown] - 170,000,000 King Cold - 130,000,000 Android Saga Goku - 40,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 400,000,000 [Heart virus, declining] - 200,000,000 Vegeta 41,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 410,000,000 Trunks - 32,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 320,000,000 Piccolo - 155,000,000 [Unweighted] - 190,000,000 Gohan - 20,000,000 Krillin - 5,120,000 Tien - 11,875,000 Yamcha - 2,800,000 Chiaotzu - 75,000 Android 20 - 115,000,000 [Piccolo's ki absorbed] - 175,000,000 Android 19 - 100,000,000 [Kamehameha absorbed] - 250,000,000 Android 18 - 620,000,000 Android 17 - 630,000,000 Android 16 - 1,200,000,000 Cell Saga Vegeta - 200,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 2,000,000,000 [Ascended Super Saiyan] - 3,000,000,000 Trunks - 185,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 1,850,000,000 [Ascended Super Saiyan] - 2,775,000,000 [Ultra Super Saiyan] - 8,375,000,000 Piccolo - 516,000,000 [Unweighted] - 645,000,000 Cell - 550,000,000 [Humans absorbed] - 1,156,000,000 [Semi-perfect form] - 2,300,000,000 [Perfect form] - 2,920,000,000 [25% full power] - 7,300,000,000 Cell Games Saga Goku - 1,400,000,000 [Super Saiyan, half power] - 7,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan, full power] - 14,000,000,000 Gohan - 1,650,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 16,500,000,000 [Super Saiyan 2] - 165,000,000,000 Vegeta - 1,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 10,000,000,000 Trunks - 850,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 8,500,000,000 Piccolo - 1,500,000,000 Krillin - 6,000,000 Tien - 13,000,000 Yamcha - 2,960,000 Cell Jr. - 14,600,000,000 Perfect Cell - 2,920,000,000 [25% full power] - 7,300,000,000 [50% full power] - 14,600,000,000 [100% full power] - 29,200,000,000 [Power-weighted] - 87,600,000,000 [Zenkai] - 174,000,000,000 Future Android 18 - 310,000,000 Future Android 17 - 315,000,000 Future Cell - 400,000,000 Saiyaman Saga Gohan - 1,350,000,000 [Super Saiyan, 10% full power] - 1,485,000,000 [Super Saiyan, full power] - 13,500,000,000 Goten - 140,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 1,400,000,000 Trunks - 160,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 1,600,000,000 Vegeta - 1,250,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 12,500,000,000 Videl - 5.5 World Tournament Saga Goku - 2,200,000,000 Vegeta - 1,600,000,000 Gohan - 1,500,000,000 [Super Saiyan 2] - 150,000,000,000 Goten - 600,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 6,000,000,000 Trunks - 610,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 6,100,000,000 Piccolo - 1,800,000,000 Android 18 - 650,000,000 Krillin - 9,000,000 Mr. Satan - 7 Videl - 9 Kibito - 900,000,000 Supreme Kai - 2,000,000,000 Spopovitch - 6.8 [Majin] - 24 Yamu - 24 Majin Buu Saga Goku - 2,200,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 22,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan 2] - 220,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan 3] - 880,000,000,000 Vegeta - 1,600,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 16,000,000,000 [Majin] - 2,150,000,000 [Majin Super Saiyan 2] - 215,000,000,000 Gohan - 1,500,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 15,000,000,000 Gotenks - 30,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 300,000,000,000 Pui Pui - 1,400,000,000 Yakon - 1,800,000,000 Dabura - 14,000,000,000 Fat Buu - 60,000,000,000 [full power] - 690,000,000,000 Super Buu Saga Gotenks - 45,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 450,000,000 [Super Saiyan 3] - 1,800,000,000,000 Gohan - 7,500,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 75,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan 2] - 750,000,000,000 [Mystic] - 2,460,000,000,000 Vegito - 5,000,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 50,000,000,000,000 Good Buu - 230,000,000,000 Gray Buu - 460,000,000,000 Super Buu - 1,900,000,000,000 [Buutenks] - 3,700,000,000,000 [Buuhan] - 4,360,000,000,000 [Buff Buu] - 2,100,000,000,000 Kid Buu Saga Goku - 2,200,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 22,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan 2] - 220,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan 3] - 880,000,000,000 Vegeta - 2,150,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 21,500,000,000 [Super Saiyan 2] - 215,000,000,000 Kid Buu - 860,000,000,000 End of Z Goku - 700,000,000,000 Vegeta - 500,000,000,000 Pan - 20,000,000 Uub - 6 [Enraged] - 860,000,000,000
	Buu Saga power levels Cell and Buu arc power levels


+ Pyrus	Mar 10 2014, 02:03 PM Post #2
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Quote: - I'm don't take Gotenks seriously until he turns SSJ3, so don't be suprised if I have his base and SSJ forms too low. What an easy copout. Quote: Krillin - 5,120,000 Tien - 11,875,000 Krillin was the strongest human by the Boo arc, and by the time the manga ended. He stopped training after the Cell Games. Quote: Goku - 1,400,000,000 [Super Saiyan, half power] - 7,000,000,000 [Super Saiyan, full power] - 14,000,000,000 Gohan - 1,650,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 16,500,000,000 According to your gaps, Gohan has a "minimal advantage" over Goku, yet he completely outperformed him against Cell? Interesting. Quote: Krillin - 6,000,000 Tien - 13,000,000 In ten days? Quote: Gohan - 1,350,000,000 [Super Saiyan, 10% full power] - 1,485,000,000 [Super Saiyan, full power] - 13,500,000,000 Goten - 140,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 1,400,000,000 This is plain ridiculous. Quote: Vegeta - 1,600,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 16,000,000,000 [Majin] - 2,150,000,000 [Majin Super Saiyan 2] - 215,000,000,000 He should be completely equal with SSjin 2 Goku -- no leeway.
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LSSJ4 Batman	Mar 10 2014, 02:34 PM Post #3
The Champ Posts: 623 Group: Duplicate Member #8,485 Joined: October 29, 2012	Quote: - I'm don't take Gotenks seriously until he turns SSJ3, so don't be suprised if I have his base and SSJ forms too low. What an easy copout. Quote: It's my opinion Quote: Gohan - 1,350,000,000 [Super Saiyan, 10% full power] - 1,485,000,000 [Super Saiyan, full power] - 13,500,000,000 Goten - 140,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 1,400,000,000 This is plain ridiculous. Quote: What's the problem here? Quote: Quote: Vegeta - 1,600,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 16,000,000,000 [Majin] - 2,150,000,000 [Majin Super Saiyan 2] - 215,000,000,000 He should be completely equal with SSjin 2 Goku -- no leeway. It would seem ridiculous for them to be exactly equal two each other.
	Buu Saga power levels Cell and Buu arc power levels


+ Pyrus	Mar 10 2014, 03:02 PM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Quote: It's my opinion I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's something people are using more and more to get out of long-winded discussions these days. "Well, it's my opinion so I'd rather just not talk about it to begin with." Meh, whatever floats your boat, sir. Quote: What's the problem here? The problem is Gohan using 10% of his power to spar with Goten when nothing indicated such a huge suppression amount, or any suppression at all. Gohan was sweating, gritting his teeth, and had an aura up, which are not signs of taking it that easy on his little brother. Even taking into account Gohan being rusty and being surprised at Goten's power, there shouldn't have been such an even session between them if all Gohan had to do was increase his power a bit. Not to mention there's Trunks scratching Vegeta's face, which I doubt someone at 10% of his power (even less since Vegeta's stronger than Gohan) could do when he's anticipating and on-guard for such a thing. Quote: It would seem ridiculous for them to be exactly equal two each other. Maybe, but that's what the text said.
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+ Yusuke	Mar 10 2014, 03:55 PM Post #5
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Pesonally, i'm okay with the kids beings less than 50% of Gohan's power. I know a lot of people are going to give you flak about it but then again, their is no official statement for that and everyone bases this on Gohan saying that the kids are going to surpass him which is reasonable given the rate they become stronger but that doesn't necessarily mean they have to be 50% of Gohan's power. Anyways, here's what I think should be changed. - I know you said that you didn't believe Gotenks should be stronger than SSJ3 Goku but theirs statements in the manga that prove he surpassed SSJ3 Goku as a SSJ before going into the RoSaT and that his Base form after the RoSaT surpasses his previous SSJ form. - Their should be a bigger gap between Base Vegeta and Pui-Pui. By your numbers, Pui-Pui would give Vegeta a good fight when he should be stomping material for Vegeta. - SSJ Vegeta should be stronger tha Supressed Semi-Perfect Cell. You didn't include a PL for him so i'm a bit unsure. - Like KP said, SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta should be equals. They pretty much fought evenly for the whole fight. - SSJ2 is 10X SSJ? Yikes! And I thought I was pushing it with a 4X multiplier. In all seriousness, I think the SSJ3 multiplier should be higher than the SSJ2 one given that Goku went from Majin Vegeta level as an SSJ2 to Pure Buu level as an SSJ3. - Base Vegito shouldn't be stronger than Buuhan. At best, he's >= or = to Buuhan. Likewise, SSJ3 Gogeta should be weaker than Buuhan. Personally, I have him just a tad bit stronger than Buutenks. That's all I got from going through the list quickly. Just give the list a few tweaks here and there and it'll be better. Edited by Yusuke, Mar 10 2014, 04:00 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Mar 10 2014, 04:23 PM Post #6
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 10 2014, 03:55 PM Pesonally, i'm okay with the kids beings less than 50% of Gohan's power. I know a lot of people are going to give you flak about it but then again, their is no official statement for that and everyone bases this on Gohan saying that the kids are going to surpass him which is reasonable given the rate they become stronger but that doesn't necessarily mean they have to be 50% of Gohan's power. It doesn't entail a pathetic 10% either. Gohan might as well have tried sparring with Chi-Chi if that's what he was going for.
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LSSJ4 Batman	Mar 10 2014, 04:40 PM Post #7
The Champ Posts: 623 Group: Duplicate Member #8,485 Joined: October 29, 2012	Yusuke Urameshi Mar 10 2014, 03:55 PM Quote: - Their should be a bigger gap between Base Vegeta and Pui-Pui. By your numbers, Pui-Pui would give Vegeta a good fight when he should be stomping material for Vegeta. Thats something I overlooked there. Quote: - SSJ Vegeta should be stronger tha Supressed Semi-Perfect Cell. You didn't include a PL for him so i'm a bit unsure. Where was it stated SSJ Vegeta was stronger than Semi-Cell?
	Buu Saga power levels Cell and Buu arc power levels


+ Yusuke	Mar 10 2014, 04:47 PM Post #8
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	LSSJ4 Batman Mar 10 2014, 04:40 PM Yusuke Urameshi Mar 10 2014, 03:55 PM Quote: - Their should be a bigger gap between Base Vegeta and Pui-Pui. By your numbers, Pui-Pui would give Vegeta a good fight when he should be stomping material for Vegeta. Thats something I overlooked there. Quote: - SSJ Vegeta should be stronger tha Supressed Semi-Perfect Cell. You didn't include a PL for him so i'm a bit unsure. Where was it stated SSJ Vegeta was stronger than Semi-Cell? Trunks didn't expect Vegeta to go ASSJ right of the bat because SSJ would be enough to beat Supressed Semi-Perfect Cell. FP Semi-Perfect Cell being stronger than SSJ Vegeta is okay though. @KP That's a pretty big hyperbole my friend. Obviously, Chi-Chi can't keep up with Gohan even if he used a millionth of his power. Edited by Yusuke, Mar 10 2014, 04:51 PM.
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LSSJ4 Batman	Mar 10 2014, 04:54 PM Post #9
The Champ Posts: 623 Group: Duplicate Member #8,485 Joined: October 29, 2012	Quote: Where was it stated SSJ Vegeta was stronger than Semi-Cell? Trunks didn't expect Vegeta to go ASSJ right of the bat because SSJ would be enough to beat Supressed Semi-Perfect Cell. FP Semi-Perfect Cell being stronger than SSJ Vegeta is okay though. Well, I didn't include a PL for Supressed Semi-Cell. 2,300,000,000 is just about right. Edited by LSSJ4 Batman, Mar 10 2014, 04:56 PM.
	Buu Saga power levels Cell and Buu arc power levels


+ Yusuke	Mar 10 2014, 09:09 PM Post #10
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	LSSJ4 Batman Mar 10 2014, 04:54 PM Quote: Where was it stated SSJ Vegeta was stronger than Semi-Cell? Trunks didn't expect Vegeta to go ASSJ right of the bat because SSJ would be enough to beat Supressed Semi-Perfect Cell. FP Semi-Perfect Cell being stronger than SSJ Vegeta is okay though. Well, I didn't include a PL for Supressed Semi-Cell. 2,300,000,000 is just about right. Isn't that your same power level for FP Semi-Perfect Cell? Quote: [Semi-perfect form] - 2,300,000,000
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