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Did Goku get a rage boost on Namek?
Topic Started: Mar 8 2014, 07:59 PM (541 Views)
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I'm talking about right after Krillin was killed and Piccolo was nearly killed. After Goku hit Freeza with the Genki-Dama, he was visibly out of energy. After performing the Kaioken x20, and getting hit by Freeza he had nothing left. So why was it when he turned into a Super Saiyan his energy seemed to restore itself? Was he boosted by rage?
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Maybe because losing 3 million worth of power is nothing when your full potential is 150 million.. So basically if we put tired Goku at 0.1 million, SSJ Goku would be 147.1 million
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No, it was just his SSJ boost that gave him the strength to trounce Frieza.

I don`t think Goku ever got in rage boost in DBZ.
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Yusuke Urameshi
Mar 8 2014, 08:25 PM
No, it was just his SSJ boost that gave him the strength to trounce Frieza.

I don`t think Goku ever got in rage boost in DBZ.
That wouldn't make sense according to "official numbers". They claim Base Goku is 3,000,000 and SSJ is 150,000,000 which is the 50x boost. Goku was at 3 million when he was at his max energy, not when he was extremely warn out. I think he must have gotten a rage boost.
Edited by SSJ, Mar 8 2014, 08:55 PM.
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So the SSJ boost is 50x of what you currently have and not what you should have (if you werent tired)?
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Mar 8 2014, 08:58 PM
So the SSJ boost is 50x of what you currently have and not what you should have (if you werent tired)?
That's how I see it. If you have a base of 1.5 million, your super saiyan should be 75 million. Not 150 million. And I honestly think Goku was a lot weaker than 1.5 million, he could barely move.
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Maybe going SSJ replenish's your ki? That's my best guess.
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Never thought about that. It's pretty clear goku was pissed. He probably got a rage boost. Ssj is a rage boost though.... I have no idea lol
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Mar 8 2014, 09:05 PM.
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Yusuke Urameshi
Mar 8 2014, 09:02 PM
Maybe going SSJ replenish's your ki? That's my best guess.
It's an interesting theory but I have one major reason to disagree with it. Take Goku vs Cell. Goku was getting very worn out in the battle, essentially causing him to quit. Going by your theory, Goku could simply revert back to base, and then transform again. He would then have his ki replenished and would be back at his maximum.

It just doesn't make sense. The Super Saiyan transformation isn't meant to be like taking a senzu bean.
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Mar 8 2014, 09:38 PM
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Mar 8 2014, 09:02 PM
Maybe going SSJ replenish's your ki? That's my best guess.
It's an interesting theory but I have one major reason to disagree with it. Take Goku vs Cell. Goku was getting very worn out in the battle, essentially causing him to quit. Going by your theory, Goku could simply revert back to base, and then transform again. He would then have his ki replenished and would be back at his maximum.

It just doesn't make sense. The Super Saiyan transformation isn't meant to be like taking a senzu bean.
Or maybe it's just the initial transformation that replenish's ki. Goku was an MSSJ for a long time and never reverted to Base until he died to Cell's explosion.
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I still don't know if I like it. Here isn't really any evidence for that despite the Daizenshuu 7 SSJ power level. The manga makes it pretty clear how angry Goku was, and he even states that rage brought him to SSJ, or something along those lines.
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Let's say Goku, not tired, not injured, no Kaioken... was 3 mill @ Freeza.

Even if he gets tired/injured.... his base strength is still 3 mill... he just can't access all of it as consistently as if he wasn't tired/injured.

He transforms, boosting his full power to 150 mill. Anger + adrenalin allow him to fight at his max, ignoring injury, ignoring low stamina (comparable to real life).
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There is another possibility.. There is your current power and then there is your current maximum power... Example
Goku is at 100k battlepower while his normal is 3 million, he gets healed or eat a Senzu bean and he goes back to 3 million. Theres some form of mechanic with Ki that would make Gokus power rise back to his normal one.
Same thing with SSJ multiplier, it multipliers from his normal power pool, not his current one, so if hes at 100k then his SSJ power would be 147.1 million instead of 150 million.
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Goku doesn't really seem to get rage boosts. I think simply him transforming was the boost.
But then again, it's not like he rages very often anyway.
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Goku had gotten the crap beaten out of him, but he wasn't down for the count either. He needed a moment to catch his breath and Freeza wasn't giving him that, nor was being underwater.

He'd be aching like Hell, but I think he had enough gas in the tank to keep going. Freeza got hit in the face by the Spirit Bomb and said it nearly killed him, yet a minute later, he's reaching 100%. Powering up in DBZ seems to give you your power back
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