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| Where do you place [Cell Games] Piccolo? | |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 6 2014, 06:35 PM Post #16 |
 
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Right around as strong as "Super Vegeta," which is a small chunk below the "about half" power that Goku showed off. |
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| Hearts | Mar 6 2014, 07:16 PM Post #17 |
 
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Isnt Super Vegeta the Vegeta against Semi-Perfect? |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 6 2014, 09:10 PM Post #18 |
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...Yes? That's the self-appointed name for him at SSJ Grade 2. |
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Mar 6 2014, 09:14 PM Post #19 |
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Around Super Vegeta |
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Mar 6 2014, 09:15 PM Post #20 |
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Goku's half power is much stronger than SSjin Grade 3 Trunks |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 6 2014, 09:18 PM Post #21 |
 
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In your opinion, which could certainly be interpreted that way, but myself and others view it the opposite way. |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 6 2014, 09:23 PM Post #22 |
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Maybe. Maybe not. I lean towards not. |
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Mar 6 2014, 09:40 PM Post #23 |
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Goku while resting is the one who was even with Cell and half power Goku is much higher than that so 50% MSSjin Goku > SSjin Grade 3 I have non canon proof but you will no accept it I guess Everyone was shocked at Goku's strength after he powered up |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 6 2014, 09:52 PM Post #24 |
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Trunks' power in Grade 3 is a non-factor because everyone knows the form is useless, while just before Goku powered up, Vegeta figured out and explained what Goku did with Super Saiyan. Goku' strength is surprising not just because of how much power he gained, but because he did it WITHOUT higher forms "beyond Super Saiyan." |
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Mar 6 2014, 09:56 PM Post #25 |
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They don't know it.. They never saw him powering up... Resting/Warmed Up Goku was even with Cell who fought Trunks... Goku's half power is much higher |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 6 2014, 09:58 PM Post #26 |
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That and when Goku powered up against Cell, Krillin stated it made sense for Goku to surpass everyone. If he already knew Goku was stronger, that'd be a bit redundant. And to slightly elaborate on what Kaboom mentioned, when Cell went to full power, he didn't use any of his buff forms. He knew they were useless just as well as the Z-Fighters. |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 6 2014, 10:01 PM Post #27 |
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How do you know for a fact that Cell was using the exact same amount of power in both instances? It seems you're arguing on the basis of a lot of big assumptions. Also, thanks to Kamikaze Pyro for pointing out that line from Kuririn. I always forget about it and agree with what he said. |
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Mar 6 2014, 10:02 PM Post #28 |
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They still consider the power and not the speed 50% MSSjin Goku should be much stronger than Cell when he fought Trunks and Vegeta so he can't be weaker than SSjin Grade 3 Trunks Kaboom, It's just a general statement to say Goku surpassed everyone. The author wants to say Goku was the strongest in the CG (it was not known that Gohan was the strongest) Nothing says Cell changed his power. You say assumptions. Edited by Toto, Mar 6 2014, 10:04 PM.
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| Hearts | Mar 6 2014, 10:33 PM Post #29 |
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Wait im confused, if ASSJ Vegeta is as strong as 50% of CG Goku, then how strong is CGVegeta? I thought MSSJ Vegeta was at 50% Goku, which would put ASSJ much weaker than that. And Buu saga Vegeta isnt stronger than Kid Gohan which would mean that 7 years of training would put him at around CG Gokus level. I dont see how ASSJ Vegeta can be at 50%.. he should be much weaker. Could you guys, without trying to do counter-arguments only, explain this : o Both of you are experienced and knowledgeable so I trust that you have a good reason. |
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| + Kaboom | Mar 6 2014, 10:39 PM Post #30 |
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Who's saying that? 
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